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		<title>By: Walt</title>
		<link>http://moviemorlocks.com/2009/12/16/knock-on-wood-2/#comment-11190</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 21:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just re-watched &quot;The Rains Came.&quot;  My estimation of George Brent usually never rises above the level of &quot;didn&#039;t stink,&quot; but in this one, he&#039;s terrific.  Sure, there is writing and directing behind this much-more-multi-dimensional character, but he plays it superbly.

That film in general is quite wonderful on a number of levels, overlooked perhaps because it came in on that tsunami of great work released in 1939.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just re-watched &#8220;The Rains Came.&#8221;  My estimation of George Brent usually never rises above the level of &#8220;didn&#8217;t stink,&#8221; but in this one, he&#8217;s terrific.  Sure, there is writing and directing behind this much-more-multi-dimensional character, but he plays it superbly.</p>
<p>That film in general is quite wonderful on a number of levels, overlooked perhaps because it came in on that tsunami of great work released in 1939.</p>
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		<title>By: kingrat</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 21:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Does Mel Ferrer deserve an honorable mention, apart from, say, his turn in BORN TO BE BAD in a Clifton Webb/George Sanders role, where&#039;s he&#039;s surprisingly animated?

Throughout the classic era the ideals of being ladies and gentlemen were taken very seriously. Ladies and gentlemen did not show their emotions. A British film like SCOTT OF THE ANTARCTIC shows the positive side of this stoic ideal. Some of the actors you mentioned, such as Herbert Marshall, exemplified the gentleman. For some of our parents and grandparents, repression = middle class or higher, and the unchecked expression of emotion = lower class.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does Mel Ferrer deserve an honorable mention, apart from, say, his turn in BORN TO BE BAD in a Clifton Webb/George Sanders role, where&#8217;s he&#8217;s surprisingly animated?</p>
<p>Throughout the classic era the ideals of being ladies and gentlemen were taken very seriously. Ladies and gentlemen did not show their emotions. A British film like SCOTT OF THE ANTARCTIC shows the positive side of this stoic ideal. Some of the actors you mentioned, such as Herbert Marshall, exemplified the gentleman. For some of our parents and grandparents, repression = middle class or higher, and the unchecked expression of emotion = lower class.</p>
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		<title>By: cee</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 03:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[you forgot cornel wilde!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you forgot cornel wilde!</p>
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		<title>By: kingrat</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 01:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What a fun post! Does Troy Donahue constitute his own species of wooden? I&#039;m looking forward to pigging out on your Hall of Hams, too.

You know, when Bette stole Dennis Morgan away from Olivia in IN THIS OUR LIFE, you could see why, but if it&#039;s George Brent, why bother? Though George actually seems more attractive and less wooden in THE RAINS CAME and THE GAY SISTERS, we do tend to remember Tyrone Power and Myrna Loy in THE RAINS CAME, which sort of proves your point.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a fun post! Does Troy Donahue constitute his own species of wooden? I&#8217;m looking forward to pigging out on your Hall of Hams, too.</p>
<p>You know, when Bette stole Dennis Morgan away from Olivia in IN THIS OUR LIFE, you could see why, but if it&#8217;s George Brent, why bother? Though George actually seems more attractive and less wooden in THE RAINS CAME and THE GAY SISTERS, we do tend to remember Tyrone Power and Myrna Loy in THE RAINS CAME, which sort of proves your point.</p>
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		<title>By: moirafinnie</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 14:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree on almost all points, Suzi--though I think that I may not have conveyed my affection for all these actors adequately. Except for saying that I love allegedly wooden actors so much that I should have splinters--my tongue was in my cheek as I wrote this, honest! And none of it was meant to be taken literally. I enjoy the style of acting embodied by all those I&#039;ve tossed into the wooden bin very much.

My description of &lt;strong&gt;Dana Andrews&lt;/strong&gt;, who I only think might be misinterpreted as wooden in a few of his lesser films, was largely facetious and meant to show that he really does not belong in any wooden league, but is a wonderful actor capable of showing a range of emotions using a minimum of histrionics on screen. I have always loved &lt;strong&gt;Herbert Marshall&lt;/strong&gt;, and would be glad to defend his clipped delivery and wonderfully dry delivery of his lines in good movies and bad. As to the bio-pic &lt;strong&gt;Jeanne Eagels&lt;/strong&gt;, I have seen it about five times since childhood and as adorable as &lt;strong&gt;Jeff Chandler&lt;/strong&gt; is as the nice carny in that film, I don&#039;t think it  was a very good part for him but was only marginally better for &lt;strong&gt;Novak&lt;/strong&gt;.

I used to think that &lt;strong&gt;Kim Novak&lt;/strong&gt; was wooden, but then came to appreciate her style in &lt;strong&gt;Pushover&lt;/strong&gt;, &lt;strong&gt;Middle of the Night&lt;/strong&gt; and &lt;strong&gt;Strangers When We Meet&lt;/strong&gt;. Given a role that engaged her, and some careful direction, she could be far better than she appeared in many of her films, (even &lt;strong&gt;Vertigo&lt;/strong&gt;).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree on almost all points, Suzi&#8211;though I think that I may not have conveyed my affection for all these actors adequately. Except for saying that I love allegedly wooden actors so much that I should have splinters&#8211;my tongue was in my cheek as I wrote this, honest! And none of it was meant to be taken literally. I enjoy the style of acting embodied by all those I&#8217;ve tossed into the wooden bin very much.</p>
<p>My description of <strong>Dana Andrews</strong>, who I only think might be misinterpreted as wooden in a few of his lesser films, was largely facetious and meant to show that he really does not belong in any wooden league, but is a wonderful actor capable of showing a range of emotions using a minimum of histrionics on screen. I have always loved <strong>Herbert Marshall</strong>, and would be glad to defend his clipped delivery and wonderfully dry delivery of his lines in good movies and bad. As to the bio-pic <strong>Jeanne Eagels</strong>, I have seen it about five times since childhood and as adorable as <strong>Jeff Chandler</strong> is as the nice carny in that film, I don&#8217;t think it  was a very good part for him but was only marginally better for <strong>Novak</strong>.</p>
<p>I used to think that <strong>Kim Novak</strong> was wooden, but then came to appreciate her style in <strong>Pushover</strong>, <strong>Middle of the Night</strong> and <strong>Strangers When We Meet</strong>. Given a role that engaged her, and some careful direction, she could be far better than she appeared in many of her films, (even <strong>Vertigo</strong>).</p>
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		<title>By: suzidoll</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 04:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, you guys are tough!!! I think Dana Andrews has a melancholy air beneath the surface that prevents him from being too wooden, which was why he worked well in film noir. And Herbert Marshall was bemused and droll, not wooden. There is a difference between subtle and wooden.

And you ought to see Jeff Chandler opposite Kim Novak in JEANNE EAGELS---Novak makes Chandler seem like Nicolas Cage when he&#039;s chewing the scenery. She&#039;s got to be the female equivalent of wooden, though I think she goes beyond wooden into somnambulism.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, you guys are tough!!! I think Dana Andrews has a melancholy air beneath the surface that prevents him from being too wooden, which was why he worked well in film noir. And Herbert Marshall was bemused and droll, not wooden. There is a difference between subtle and wooden.</p>
<p>And you ought to see Jeff Chandler opposite Kim Novak in JEANNE EAGELS&#8212;Novak makes Chandler seem like Nicolas Cage when he&#8217;s chewing the scenery. She&#8217;s got to be the female equivalent of wooden, though I think she goes beyond wooden into somnambulism.</p>
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		<title>By: Al Lowe</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sometimes these wooden actors were more complex than you might think.

Take Jeff Chandler for example.

A recent biography of Sammy Davis Jr. tells how the entertainer lost an eye in a car accident and was treated at an out-of-the-way hospital. The first performer to come visit him was Chandler. There are photos of him in the hospital with Sammy. Tony Curtis and Frank Sinatra showed too. (Incidentally Chandler and Curtis made cameo appearances in MEET DANNY WILSON]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes these wooden actors were more complex than you might think.</p>
<p>Take Jeff Chandler for example.</p>
<p>A recent biography of Sammy Davis Jr. tells how the entertainer lost an eye in a car accident and was treated at an out-of-the-way hospital. The first performer to come visit him was Chandler. There are photos of him in the hospital with Sammy. Tony Curtis and Frank Sinatra showed too. (Incidentally Chandler and Curtis made cameo appearances in MEET DANNY WILSON</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 15:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What an interesting topic. McCrea who is one of my favorites may have become that way later but he was wonderful in his early films. I still like him. I agree about Marshall. Having recently seen him in &quot;If You Could Only Cook&quot; it seems there were hidden talents.

How wonderful to compare it the &quot;hams&quot; (and there is more to  write there I am sure.)

Thanks for the hard work. I enjoyed it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an interesting topic. McCrea who is one of my favorites may have become that way later but he was wonderful in his early films. I still like him. I agree about Marshall. Having recently seen him in &#8220;If You Could Only Cook&#8221; it seems there were hidden talents.</p>
<p>How wonderful to compare it the &#8220;hams&#8221; (and there is more to  write there I am sure.)</p>
<p>Thanks for the hard work. I enjoyed it.</p>
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		<title>By: G.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[G.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 05:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thoroughly enjoyed this blog post and the humor behind it. I constantly find myself using the term &#039;stale&#039; &#039;wooden&#039; &#039;one note&#039; but this takes it to a positive level. I loved Robert Cummings in Saboteur, and he fits perfectly in this list, as well Jeff Chandler and Joel McCrea. Everyone you mention is wooden, but had their own innate personalities onscreen that if you are truly scrutinizing the performances, they could very well stand out like beacons. The same goes for all the other woods out their..it&#039;s a virtual forest! 
Who are my wooden choices of the past?
Alan Ladd, Ronald Coleman (Bitter Harvest, one of the best movies ever, but he was quite a block!) John Wayne (Somehow to me, he&#039;s king!) Possibly John Payne...there are more, but names escape me. I would love to see a hammy hall of fame too! You could start with the top 3 hams-Orson Welles, Burt Lancaster and Tony Curtis. (Though Welles and Lancaster are wonderful to me. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thoroughly enjoyed this blog post and the humor behind it. I constantly find myself using the term &#8216;stale&#8217; &#8216;wooden&#8217; &#8216;one note&#8217; but this takes it to a positive level. I loved Robert Cummings in Saboteur, and he fits perfectly in this list, as well Jeff Chandler and Joel McCrea. Everyone you mention is wooden, but had their own innate personalities onscreen that if you are truly scrutinizing the performances, they could very well stand out like beacons. The same goes for all the other woods out their..it&#8217;s a virtual forest!<br />
Who are my wooden choices of the past?<br />
Alan Ladd, Ronald Coleman (Bitter Harvest, one of the best movies ever, but he was quite a block!) John Wayne (Somehow to me, he&#8217;s king!) Possibly John Payne&#8230;there are more, but names escape me. I would love to see a hammy hall of fame too! You could start with the top 3 hams-Orson Welles, Burt Lancaster and Tony Curtis. (Though Welles and Lancaster are wonderful to me. :)</p>
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		<title>By: moirafinnie</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 03:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, thanks for understanding the humorous spirit behind my post, Jenni. 

I sometimes worry that no one will get my sometimes off-kilter humor in print, but I have had so much fun writing this one, it was criminal. I think that &lt;strong&gt;Dana Andrews&lt;/strong&gt; and his perennial thousand yard stare were used to enormous effect in film, though he might easily be one of the boys in the wood pile. I have thought that his blanked out gaze, cynicism and exhaustion in movies such as &lt;b&gt;Where the Sidewalk Ends&lt;/b&gt; and &lt;b&gt;The Best Years of Our Lives&lt;/b&gt; might seem wooden, especially since he is one of the few actors who rarely raised his voice in films and spoke with the trace of a drawl. However, he can be enormously touching and subtle, especially in roles when he captures that &#039;average joe&#039; air of men of his generation who, like Andrews in real life, endured considerable hardship in the Depression and its aftermath. Whenever &lt;strong&gt;Andrews&lt;/strong&gt; tried to play conventional men living humdrum lives, I have definitely found him lacking credibility, but not when he was carefully cast in parts that allowed him to suggest the weight of carrying on, even when he knows he is in deep trouble, he can be seen at his considerable best.

I like your suggestion of adding on a wing for the Hams Hall of Fame. Maybe we should start to build that as an annex to the Wooden Actors Valhalla? Something tells me that the Hams are going to need a lot more room than those terribly well behaved Wooden guys.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, thanks for understanding the humorous spirit behind my post, Jenni. </p>
<p>I sometimes worry that no one will get my sometimes off-kilter humor in print, but I have had so much fun writing this one, it was criminal. I think that <strong>Dana Andrews</strong> and his perennial thousand yard stare were used to enormous effect in film, though he might easily be one of the boys in the wood pile. I have thought that his blanked out gaze, cynicism and exhaustion in movies such as <b>Where the Sidewalk Ends</b> and <b>The Best Years of Our Lives</b> might seem wooden, especially since he is one of the few actors who rarely raised his voice in films and spoke with the trace of a drawl. However, he can be enormously touching and subtle, especially in roles when he captures that &#8216;average joe&#8217; air of men of his generation who, like Andrews in real life, endured considerable hardship in the Depression and its aftermath. Whenever <strong>Andrews</strong> tried to play conventional men living humdrum lives, I have definitely found him lacking credibility, but not when he was carefully cast in parts that allowed him to suggest the weight of carrying on, even when he knows he is in deep trouble, he can be seen at his considerable best.</p>
<p>I like your suggestion of adding on a wing for the Hams Hall of Fame. Maybe we should start to build that as an annex to the Wooden Actors Valhalla? Something tells me that the Hams are going to need a lot more room than those terribly well behaved Wooden guys.</p>
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