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		<title>By: myidolspencer</title>
		<link>http://moviemorlocks.com/2009/12/07/remembering-pearl-harbor-day-through-the-movies/#comment-10953</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 15:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OOPS, after really again giving your entire article the once over-(again) that book you listed by *Capra is exactly the 1 I own and also noted

&amp; *&quot;From Here to Eternity&quot; is of course the very first motion pic. to show Pearl Harbor]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OOPS, after really again giving your entire article the once over-(again) that book you listed by *Capra is exactly the 1 I own and also noted</p>
<p>&amp; *&#8221;From Here to Eternity&#8221; is of course the very first motion pic. to show Pearl Harbor</p>
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		<title>By: myidolspencer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[myidolspencer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 15:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s sad, yet typcal of this era a lot more didn&#039;t give a hand=in on this one Susie!?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s sad, yet typcal of this era a lot more didn&#8217;t give a hand=in on this one Susie!?</p>
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		<title>By: myidolspencer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[myidolspencer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 09:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[4 BIG STARS or in this case STRIPES to Suzie!!! I&#039;m fascinated with history and especially WW11 &amp; first saw these around 1987 or so-(I forget the network) &amp; though of corse given the subject matter very corney at times-(propaganda-wise) they should absolutely be added to that list &quot;Library of Conress&#039; submits annually, if they haven&#039;t been already. As most know several of the classic era directors joined-in in any way they could as well (*Ford, *Stevens, *Wyler, *Minnelli,etc) &amp; *Capra obviously did what he could too, in forever putting these on film.
a good book I&#039;ve owned since the late &#039;80&#039;s is his own autobiography. You can likely locate it. He personally as *Welles &amp; most did and still do-(obviously his peers did, winning a likely never to be equaled 4 Best Director *OSCARS) that *Ford was &quot;The Master&quot;

0f most I think it was *George Stevens though that actually got closest to the realities of war.

(TRIVIA: &amp; *James Stewart at 6&#039;3 &amp; 1/2 and only 139lbs was not allowed to enlist until he gain at least 10 more lbs. Which he obviously did)

As for &quot;W. Island&quot; (***) I agree with Maltin in it being a good pic. but not a heavyweight. Especially compared with others around the era-(&quot;They Were Expendale&quot; &quot;Story of G.I. Joe&#039; &quot;0bjective Burma&quot; &quot;Destination Tokyo&quot; &quot;Air Force&quot; &amp; others. Though Farrow did win the NY Film Critics awards as Best Director for &#039;42)

&amp; who else gets the offspring of both the History Channel &amp; Military ch (Military History?)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>4 BIG STARS or in this case STRIPES to Suzie!!! I&#8217;m fascinated with history and especially WW11 &amp; first saw these around 1987 or so-(I forget the network) &amp; though of corse given the subject matter very corney at times-(propaganda-wise) they should absolutely be added to that list &#8220;Library of Conress&#8217; submits annually, if they haven&#8217;t been already. As most know several of the classic era directors joined-in in any way they could as well (*Ford, *Stevens, *Wyler, *Minnelli,etc) &amp; *Capra obviously did what he could too, in forever putting these on film.<br />
a good book I&#8217;ve owned since the late &#8217;80&#8242;s is his own autobiography. You can likely locate it. He personally as *Welles &amp; most did and still do-(obviously his peers did, winning a likely never to be equaled 4 Best Director *OSCARS) that *Ford was &#8220;The Master&#8221;</p>
<p>0f most I think it was *George Stevens though that actually got closest to the realities of war.</p>
<p>(TRIVIA: &amp; *James Stewart at 6&#8217;3 &amp; 1/2 and only 139lbs was not allowed to enlist until he gain at least 10 more lbs. Which he obviously did)</p>
<p>As for &#8220;W. Island&#8221; (***) I agree with Maltin in it being a good pic. but not a heavyweight. Especially compared with others around the era-(&#8220;They Were Expendale&#8221; &#8220;Story of G.I. Joe&#8217; &#8220;0bjective Burma&#8221; &#8220;Destination Tokyo&#8221; &#8220;Air Force&#8221; &amp; others. Though Farrow did win the NY Film Critics awards as Best Director for &#8217;42)</p>
<p>&amp; who else gets the offspring of both the History Channel &amp; Military ch (Military History?)</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Thompson</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 03:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for the nice survey of WWII movies.  It was a good tribute to your dad.  I saw the &quot;Why We Fight&quot; series in film class and found that they worked, even with an audience of mostly liberal college students.  

MacArthur left a bad taste in many peoples&#039; mouths after he sent troops and tanks to crush the Bonus Army, which had peacefully marched on Washington, DC in 1932.  Major Patton commanded the tanks.  Some number of marchers were killed.  MacArthur claimed that 90% of the marchers were not veterans, but according to &quot;American Experience&quot; on PBS, 93% were vets and 67% had served overseas.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the nice survey of WWII movies.  It was a good tribute to your dad.  I saw the &#8220;Why We Fight&#8221; series in film class and found that they worked, even with an audience of mostly liberal college students.  </p>
<p>MacArthur left a bad taste in many peoples&#8217; mouths after he sent troops and tanks to crush the Bonus Army, which had peacefully marched on Washington, DC in 1932.  Major Patton commanded the tanks.  Some number of marchers were killed.  MacArthur claimed that 90% of the marchers were not veterans, but according to &#8220;American Experience&#8221; on PBS, 93% were vets and 67% had served overseas.</p>
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		<title>By: moirafinnie</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 12:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[An excellent take on this day to remember how much we owe those who came before us, Suzi.

I guess Sept. 11th does give us a tragic link to the WWII generation, though I&#039;m not sure if we will ever comprehend that day&#039;s full impact in our lifetimes. However, thanks for the timely reminder of December 7th. In checking out the &lt;strong&gt;Frank Capra &lt;/strong&gt;&quot;&lt;em&gt;Why We Fight&lt;/em&gt;&quot; films I was struck by the way that they repeatedly emphasized the parallels between the average GI viewer&#039;s likely experiences within the context of events leading up to the war, i.e. narrator &lt;strong&gt;Walter Huston&lt;/strong&gt; pointing out that &quot;just as you were going on your first date&quot;, or &quot;driving your first jalopy&quot;, &lt;strong&gt;Hitler&lt;/strong&gt; was ascending to power, the Japanese were invading China, or &lt;strong&gt;Haile Selassie&lt;/strong&gt; was resisting &lt;strong&gt;Mussolini&lt;/strong&gt;&#039;s forces in Ethiopia, or the Spanish Civil War was providing a proving ground for Axis weapons, etc.

I&#039;m particularly fond of &lt;strong&gt;Wake Island&lt;/strong&gt; (1942-John Farrow) too for the generally unglamorous, dogged approach the film took to dramatize the significant impact of an early defeat over a narrow strip of land in the Pacific. The actors did their best to show the stoic resistance of their characters to their fate, giving their inevitable end an emotional weight without robbing them of individual humanity, which could not have been easy given the Production Code&#039;s strictures on language and behavior. Those lost on Wake Island and other &quot;specks on the map&quot; were what &lt;strong&gt;Ernie Pyle&lt;/strong&gt; described as &quot;the mud-rain-frost-and-wind boys. They have no comforts, and they even learn to live without the necessities. And in the end they are the guys that wars can&#039;t be won without.&quot;

Btw, my terse, WWII veteran father loathed &lt;strong&gt;MacArthur&lt;/strong&gt; as well for the same reasons, but then, I can barely remember him making any really positive comments about most officers, whose ranks he repeatedly refused to join, not willing to have even more on his conscience than he already did thanks to that &quot;necessary war.&quot; &lt;strong&gt;Patton&lt;/strong&gt; was his other least favorite brass hat since he felt that he wasted more military and civilian lives than necessary in his drive toward Germany, (and glory). 

He rarely spoke about that period of his life, though he used to chortle with disgust at most movies about the war, and refused to watch them, since inevitably they brought back nightmares about that time that he (and most Dads of his generation) had worked long and hard to suppress.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An excellent take on this day to remember how much we owe those who came before us, Suzi.</p>
<p>I guess Sept. 11th does give us a tragic link to the WWII generation, though I&#8217;m not sure if we will ever comprehend that day&#8217;s full impact in our lifetimes. However, thanks for the timely reminder of December 7th. In checking out the <strong>Frank Capra </strong>&#8220;<em>Why We Fight</em>&#8221; films I was struck by the way that they repeatedly emphasized the parallels between the average GI viewer&#8217;s likely experiences within the context of events leading up to the war, i.e. narrator <strong>Walter Huston</strong> pointing out that &#8220;just as you were going on your first date&#8221;, or &#8220;driving your first jalopy&#8221;, <strong>Hitler</strong> was ascending to power, the Japanese were invading China, or <strong>Haile Selassie</strong> was resisting <strong>Mussolini</strong>&#8216;s forces in Ethiopia, or the Spanish Civil War was providing a proving ground for Axis weapons, etc.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m particularly fond of <strong>Wake Island</strong> (1942-John Farrow) too for the generally unglamorous, dogged approach the film took to dramatize the significant impact of an early defeat over a narrow strip of land in the Pacific. The actors did their best to show the stoic resistance of their characters to their fate, giving their inevitable end an emotional weight without robbing them of individual humanity, which could not have been easy given the Production Code&#8217;s strictures on language and behavior. Those lost on Wake Island and other &#8220;specks on the map&#8221; were what <strong>Ernie Pyle</strong> described as &#8220;the mud-rain-frost-and-wind boys. They have no comforts, and they even learn to live without the necessities. And in the end they are the guys that wars can&#8217;t be won without.&#8221;</p>
<p>Btw, my terse, WWII veteran father loathed <strong>MacArthur</strong> as well for the same reasons, but then, I can barely remember him making any really positive comments about most officers, whose ranks he repeatedly refused to join, not willing to have even more on his conscience than he already did thanks to that &#8220;necessary war.&#8221; <strong>Patton</strong> was his other least favorite brass hat since he felt that he wasted more military and civilian lives than necessary in his drive toward Germany, (and glory). </p>
<p>He rarely spoke about that period of his life, though he used to chortle with disgust at most movies about the war, and refused to watch them, since inevitably they brought back nightmares about that time that he (and most Dads of his generation) had worked long and hard to suppress.</p>
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		<title>By: Medusa</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Medusa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 05:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wonderful post, and I particularly love your father&#039;s take on MacArthur.  That would make a wonderful scene in a movie, the soldiers throwing things at the General&#039;s movie footage.  The reason why makes it so interesting.

Every year Pearl Harbor gets further away from us.  There have been a slew of TV docs on PH that I&#039;ve seen bits of.  Always fascinating, at least for our generation and the previous one or two.  Not sure about the ones to come, though....

I&#039;m on the lookout for the movies you cited.  Excellent post!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful post, and I particularly love your father&#8217;s take on MacArthur.  That would make a wonderful scene in a movie, the soldiers throwing things at the General&#8217;s movie footage.  The reason why makes it so interesting.</p>
<p>Every year Pearl Harbor gets further away from us.  There have been a slew of TV docs on PH that I&#8217;ve seen bits of.  Always fascinating, at least for our generation and the previous one or two.  Not sure about the ones to come, though&#8230;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m on the lookout for the movies you cited.  Excellent post!</p>
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		<title>By: Ziggy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ziggy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 03:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What a great post on such an important day in our history.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tomorrowsomethingnew.blogspot.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tomorrow Something New Blog&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a great post on such an important day in our history.<br />
<a href="http://www.tomorrowsomethingnew.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Tomorrow Something New Blog</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jacqueline T Lynch</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jacqueline T Lynch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Capra&#039;s &quot;Why We Fight&quot; series was interesting, and your well-written post is a good illustration of what was so powerful about the Hollywood contribution to the war effort.  As for MacArthur, my father, also part of the troops of the Pacific Theater, felt much the same way as yours did, practically word for word.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Capra&#8217;s &#8220;Why We Fight&#8221; series was interesting, and your well-written post is a good illustration of what was so powerful about the Hollywood contribution to the war effort.  As for MacArthur, my father, also part of the troops of the Pacific Theater, felt much the same way as yours did, practically word for word.</p>
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		<title>By: kingrat</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 22:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for a great post. Jeanine Basinger&#039;s book on the WWII combat film as a genre provides an interesting look at the evolution of the combat film as circumstances changed. Her book is well-written and accessible to the general reader.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for a great post. Jeanine Basinger&#8217;s book on the WWII combat film as a genre provides an interesting look at the evolution of the combat film as circumstances changed. Her book is well-written and accessible to the general reader.</p>
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		<title>By: debbe</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 22:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[excellent suzi doll. very moving.  a perfect tribute. thank you for sharing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>excellent suzi doll. very moving.  a perfect tribute. thank you for sharing.</p>
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