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		<title>By: keelsetter</title>
		<link>http://moviemorlocks.com/2009/08/09/a-womans-secret/#comment-9761</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Moira - I love your keen eye for details! Me? I needed a lot more &quot;ad hoc families under stress&quot; to stay engaged, and I think that&#039;s why I became more interested in the offscreen story between Ray and Grahame than I was in Mankiewicz&#039; script. Speaking of the offscreen stuff, I couldn&#039;t help but notice that Ray and Grahame did have one thing in common: a background in architecture. For Ray it was working with Frank Lloyd Wright. For Grahame I think it was her father... going by memory now, so I&#039;d best hedge that with a question mark.

David - My favorite Ray film? Can I answer not on the basis of his most accomplished or influential work but rather sheer subjective pleasure? If so, I&#039;d answer Johnny Guitar, with Bigger Than Life and On Dangerous Ground tying for second place. But I still have many others yet to see.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moira &#8211; I love your keen eye for details! Me? I needed a lot more &#8220;ad hoc families under stress&#8221; to stay engaged, and I think that&#8217;s why I became more interested in the offscreen story between Ray and Grahame than I was in Mankiewicz&#8217; script. Speaking of the offscreen stuff, I couldn&#8217;t help but notice that Ray and Grahame did have one thing in common: a background in architecture. For Ray it was working with Frank Lloyd Wright. For Grahame I think it was her father&#8230; going by memory now, so I&#8217;d best hedge that with a question mark.</p>
<p>David &#8211; My favorite Ray film? Can I answer not on the basis of his most accomplished or influential work but rather sheer subjective pleasure? If so, I&#8217;d answer Johnny Guitar, with Bigger Than Life and On Dangerous Ground tying for second place. But I still have many others yet to see.</p>
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		<title>By: moirafinnie</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Keelsetter,
As another &lt;strong&gt;Nicholas Ray&lt;/strong&gt; fan, I was eager to finally see &lt;strong&gt;A Woman&#039;s Secret&lt;/strong&gt; and waited to view it before reading your article. What interested me was not the relationship between an apparently titillated &lt;strong&gt;Melvyn Douglas&lt;/strong&gt;, as you pointed out,  but the truly mercenary tensions inherent in the character&#039;s other relations. 

One of them, rife with strange connotations that puzzled me was between the &lt;strong&gt;Grahame&lt;/strong&gt; character and &lt;strong&gt;Victor Jory&lt;/strong&gt; (as a society lawyer whose connections make him, in G.G.&#039;s earthy term, &quot;a sucker&quot;. How could a big city lawyer this successful be quite this dumb...and a mama&#039;s boy yet!?). The other puzzler for me was the odd, business partnership of &lt;strong&gt;Gloria Grahame&lt;/strong&gt; and &lt;strong&gt;Maureen O&#039;Hara&lt;/strong&gt;, which had more erotic subtext than the Production Office could probably detect, much less handle in that post war era. 

I kept thinking about &lt;strong&gt;Ray&lt;/strong&gt;&#039;s penchant for developing his films and characters into ad hoc families under stress, and could certainly see that &lt;strong&gt;O&#039;Hara&lt;/strong&gt;, (who was very good as a possible baddie, as she was in &lt;strong&gt;The Fallen Sparrow&lt;/strong&gt; too) and &lt;strong&gt;Douglas&lt;/strong&gt; gave &lt;strong&gt;G.G.&lt;/strong&gt;&#039;s potentially wild, manipulative Susan some parental figureheads to rail against in her quest for &quot;self-expression&quot;. Too bad the underwritten script, (it really must have been penned by &lt;strong&gt;Herman Mankiewicz&lt;/strong&gt; on an off day or drastically changed by Nick &quot;we don&#039;t need no stinkin&#039; script&quot; Ray during production). It only allowed her childish rebellion to take the form of an unscheduled excursion to North Africa and taking the plunge with &lt;strong&gt;Bill Williams&lt;/strong&gt;, (who seemed to have wandered onto the set from &lt;strong&gt;Deadline at Dawn&lt;/strong&gt; without his sailor suit).  

It was really an engaging if slight story, but I enjoyed the moments when &lt;strong&gt;Jay C. Flippen&lt;/strong&gt; appeared, looking as natural as an old, battered hat, and when &lt;strong&gt;Mary Philips&lt;/strong&gt; (who was &lt;strong&gt;Mrs. Humphrey Bogart&lt;/strong&gt; for 10 years from 1928-1938) and &lt;strong&gt;Flippen&lt;/strong&gt; acted as though this movie might be the start of a multi-film franchise about a police inspector and his nosy wife! Too bad that was not to be since RKO was about to be thrown away like a used tinker toy by &lt;strong&gt;Howard Hughes&lt;/strong&gt;. 

Thanks for all the grizzly detail on the chaotic turns of &lt;strong&gt;Ray&lt;/strong&gt; and particularly &lt;strong&gt;Grahame&lt;/strong&gt;&#039;s life as well. Do you think that &lt;strong&gt;Gloria Grahame&lt;/strong&gt; had started to undergo all that unnecessary plastic surgery as early as this period in her career? She looked quite lovely at moments here, reminding me a bit of a svelte &lt;strong&gt;Ann Sothern&lt;/strong&gt;, and other times she looked about fourteen years old...and scared. Uh-oh, maybe &lt;strong&gt;G.G.&lt;/strong&gt; is manipulating me?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Keelsetter,<br />
As another <strong>Nicholas Ray</strong> fan, I was eager to finally see <strong>A Woman&#8217;s Secret</strong> and waited to view it before reading your article. What interested me was not the relationship between an apparently titillated <strong>Melvyn Douglas</strong>, as you pointed out,  but the truly mercenary tensions inherent in the character&#8217;s other relations. </p>
<p>One of them, rife with strange connotations that puzzled me was between the <strong>Grahame</strong> character and <strong>Victor Jory</strong> (as a society lawyer whose connections make him, in G.G.&#8217;s earthy term, &#8220;a sucker&#8221;. How could a big city lawyer this successful be quite this dumb&#8230;and a mama&#8217;s boy yet!?). The other puzzler for me was the odd, business partnership of <strong>Gloria Grahame</strong> and <strong>Maureen O&#8217;Hara</strong>, which had more erotic subtext than the Production Office could probably detect, much less handle in that post war era. </p>
<p>I kept thinking about <strong>Ray</strong>&#8216;s penchant for developing his films and characters into ad hoc families under stress, and could certainly see that <strong>O&#8217;Hara</strong>, (who was very good as a possible baddie, as she was in <strong>The Fallen Sparrow</strong> too) and <strong>Douglas</strong> gave <strong>G.G.</strong>&#8216;s potentially wild, manipulative Susan some parental figureheads to rail against in her quest for &#8220;self-expression&#8221;. Too bad the underwritten script, (it really must have been penned by <strong>Herman Mankiewicz</strong> on an off day or drastically changed by Nick &#8220;we don&#8217;t need no stinkin&#8217; script&#8221; Ray during production). It only allowed her childish rebellion to take the form of an unscheduled excursion to North Africa and taking the plunge with <strong>Bill Williams</strong>, (who seemed to have wandered onto the set from <strong>Deadline at Dawn</strong> without his sailor suit).  </p>
<p>It was really an engaging if slight story, but I enjoyed the moments when <strong>Jay C. Flippen</strong> appeared, looking as natural as an old, battered hat, and when <strong>Mary Philips</strong> (who was <strong>Mrs. Humphrey Bogart</strong> for 10 years from 1928-1938) and <strong>Flippen</strong> acted as though this movie might be the start of a multi-film franchise about a police inspector and his nosy wife! Too bad that was not to be since RKO was about to be thrown away like a used tinker toy by <strong>Howard Hughes</strong>. </p>
<p>Thanks for all the grizzly detail on the chaotic turns of <strong>Ray</strong> and particularly <strong>Grahame</strong>&#8216;s life as well. Do you think that <strong>Gloria Grahame</strong> had started to undergo all that unnecessary plastic surgery as early as this period in her career? She looked quite lovely at moments here, reminding me a bit of a svelte <strong>Ann Sothern</strong>, and other times she looked about fourteen years old&#8230;and scared. Uh-oh, maybe <strong>G.G.</strong> is manipulating me?</p>
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		<title>By: David Savage</title>
		<link>http://moviemorlocks.com/2009/08/09/a-womans-secret/#comment-9641</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Savage]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 00:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can you imagine what a field day our media would have with a leading actress being caught in bed with her 13-year old stepson? We&#039;d have an absolute media Chernobyl. Thanks for the article, Keel. What do you reckon is Ray&#039;s best film?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you imagine what a field day our media would have with a leading actress being caught in bed with her 13-year old stepson? We&#8217;d have an absolute media Chernobyl. Thanks for the article, Keel. What do you reckon is Ray&#8217;s best film?</p>
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		<title>By: medusamorlock</title>
		<link>http://moviemorlocks.com/2009/08/09/a-womans-secret/#comment-9633</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[medusamorlock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great article!  What incredible scandals to overcome, particularly the stepson dalliance/marriage.  Yikes!  I really like your statement about these real-life events lending a perspective to her role here.  I agree.  And Melvyn Douglas being so moved by the ladies -- I need to watch this, for sure!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article!  What incredible scandals to overcome, particularly the stepson dalliance/marriage.  Yikes!  I really like your statement about these real-life events lending a perspective to her role here.  I agree.  And Melvyn Douglas being so moved by the ladies &#8212; I need to watch this, for sure!</p>
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		<title>By: teri</title>
		<link>http://moviemorlocks.com/2009/08/09/a-womans-secret/#comment-9631</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[THIS GREAT ACTRESS HAS NEVER BEEN PUT IN THE SAME CLASS AS BERGMAN,HEPBURN,ETC....I THINK SHE WAS A GREAT ACTRESS AND HER FILMS SHOULD BE SHOWN JUST AS MUCH AS HEPBURNS. THE LADY ALWAYS SEEMED TO GET A RAW DEAL...........LOVE LOVE LOVE HER ACTING.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THIS GREAT ACTRESS HAS NEVER BEEN PUT IN THE SAME CLASS AS BERGMAN,HEPBURN,ETC&#8230;.I THINK SHE WAS A GREAT ACTRESS AND HER FILMS SHOULD BE SHOWN JUST AS MUCH AS HEPBURNS. THE LADY ALWAYS SEEMED TO GET A RAW DEAL&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..LOVE LOVE LOVE HER ACTING&#8230;..</p>
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