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		<title>By: The Pop History Dig &#187; “Wayne For Camels”1950s</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Pop History Dig &#187; “Wayne For Camels”1950s</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] appeared in the “Hollywood Legends” U.S. postage stamp series in the mid-1990s.Moirafinnie, &#8220;Smoke Gets In Your Eyes,&#8221; MovieMorlocks.com, May 13, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 16:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moira--This is a great article on an often ignored aspect of classic movies: how they affected everyday American lifestyles. Not to mention the way that the movies gave non-Americans the idea that all Americans had perfect teeth, and were gangsters or cowboys! I really like the way that you wrote about this topic &lt;i&gt;without&lt;/i&gt; being preachy too. 

I think that a blog on alcohol consumption in the movies and automobile love would be interesting too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moira&#8211;This is a great article on an often ignored aspect of classic movies: how they affected everyday American lifestyles. Not to mention the way that the movies gave non-Americans the idea that all Americans had perfect teeth, and were gangsters or cowboys! I really like the way that you wrote about this topic <i>without</i> being preachy too. </p>
<p>I think that a blog on alcohol consumption in the movies and automobile love would be interesting too.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe aka Mongo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe aka Mongo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 15:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moira, terrific article as usual. That list of celebrity deaths related to smoking is enough to scare anyone. It&#039;s a shame that I&#039;m still hooked on cigarettes even though the prices are now sky high. 
I tried numerous times to quit and I go into a comotose state since my body hungers for nicotine. It makes me realize what drug addicts must go through.

Although thousands die each year of cancer and heart attacks who never smoked doesn&#039;t make it right to light up.
I will look forward with hope to the next great American smoke out. Wish me luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moira, terrific article as usual. That list of celebrity deaths related to smoking is enough to scare anyone. It&#8217;s a shame that I&#8217;m still hooked on cigarettes even though the prices are now sky high.<br />
I tried numerous times to quit and I go into a comotose state since my body hungers for nicotine. It makes me realize what drug addicts must go through.</p>
<p>Although thousands die each year of cancer and heart attacks who never smoked doesn&#8217;t make it right to light up.<br />
I will look forward with hope to the next great American smoke out. Wish me luck.</p>
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		<title>By: Al Lowe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al Lowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 08:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is sad to think that William Talman was only 53 when he died.
I have been watching Perry Mason DVDs lately and I really appreciate the skill of the cast, particularly Burr and Talman. As district attorney Hamilton Berger Talman always made it look like he really believed he was going to defeat Mason in court this time. You almost thought he had a shot at doing it.
You mentioned that he was the first actor to do a commercial about the dangers of smoking. As you said, he was dead when it aired. By the way, both my parents were heavy smokers and died of lung cancer 30 years ago. My Mom was 53 and my Dad was 58.

The post-war Gable movies I like are: Any Number Can Play, The Tall Men, Betrayed, Soldier of Fortune, The Hucksters and The Misfits. The ones I hate are: Key to the City, Lone Star, Never Let Me Go, Teacher&#039;s Pet and Across the Wide Missouri; In general, MGM wasn&#039;t trying very hard although Wellman&#039;s &quot;Missouri&quot; was an honorable failure. Key to the City was not only a bad movie but an odd pairing for two stars who previously had a child out of wedlock, although that wasn&#039;t known at the time. I guess it was made because Loretta Young was hot at that moment after winning the Oscar. I never quite got Mogambo. This time John Ford wasn&#039;t trying very hard. Red Dust, which was remade as Mogambo, was much better. I&#039;m indifferent about the other post-war titles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is sad to think that William Talman was only 53 when he died.<br />
I have been watching Perry Mason DVDs lately and I really appreciate the skill of the cast, particularly Burr and Talman. As district attorney Hamilton Berger Talman always made it look like he really believed he was going to defeat Mason in court this time. You almost thought he had a shot at doing it.<br />
You mentioned that he was the first actor to do a commercial about the dangers of smoking. As you said, he was dead when it aired. By the way, both my parents were heavy smokers and died of lung cancer 30 years ago. My Mom was 53 and my Dad was 58.</p>
<p>The post-war Gable movies I like are: Any Number Can Play, The Tall Men, Betrayed, Soldier of Fortune, The Hucksters and The Misfits. The ones I hate are: Key to the City, Lone Star, Never Let Me Go, Teacher&#8217;s Pet and Across the Wide Missouri; In general, MGM wasn&#8217;t trying very hard although Wellman&#8217;s &#8220;Missouri&#8221; was an honorable failure. Key to the City was not only a bad movie but an odd pairing for two stars who previously had a child out of wedlock, although that wasn&#8217;t known at the time. I guess it was made because Loretta Young was hot at that moment after winning the Oscar. I never quite got Mogambo. This time John Ford wasn&#8217;t trying very hard. Red Dust, which was remade as Mogambo, was much better. I&#8217;m indifferent about the other post-war titles.</p>
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		<title>By: moirafinnie</title>
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		<dc:creator>moirafinnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 17:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Helen,
I was also surprised to find that &lt;b&gt;Amanda Blake&lt;/b&gt; was among those listed in a report prepared by a branch of the American Cancer Society citing celebrated people whose death &lt;i&gt;may have&lt;/i&gt; been related to smoking as well. 

As I mentioned in the article, there are many factors that may have contributed to the demise of those on such lists, including the lack of antibiotics to fight serious disease when these individuals were young, overwork, nutritional deficiencies, and stress, as well as other ancillary illnesses. I&#039;m very sorry that your brother suffered from AIDS, but sadly, I understand that opportunistic cancers may affect those whose immune systems are already compromised.

Good point, JLewis,
I agree that to our eyes today, &lt;b&gt;Walt Disney&lt;/b&gt; and &lt;b&gt;Clark Gable&lt;/b&gt; looked much older than their ages. Tobacco use may certainly have affected their appearance and their health, though both men were also noted for their commitment to a remarkable work ethic, a lifestyle that included alcohol as well, and were engaged in a business notorious for its level of stress. In addition, they grew up in a time when vaccination was rare, as was medical treatment for common childhood diseases and food may not have been as plentiful or nutritious as it is today (despite our problems). Also, Mr. &lt;b&gt;Gable&lt;/b&gt; endured the sudden loss of his wife, &lt;b&gt;Carole Lombard&lt;/b&gt;, and went through years of rigorous experiences in WWII. There are some who feel that he was never truly the same after this period. 

I think that your father had a good point, Al.
Still, while I like &lt;b&gt;The Hucksters&lt;/b&gt; okay, I find some of &lt;b&gt;Gable&lt;/b&gt;&#039;s later movies, in particular the critically lambasted &lt;b&gt;Adventure&lt;/b&gt;,  &lt;b&gt;Any Number Can Play&lt;/b&gt;, &lt;b&gt;Teacher&#039;s Pet&lt;b&gt;, &lt;b&gt;But Not For Me&lt;/b&gt; and most of all, &lt;b&gt;The Misfits&lt;/b&gt; to be among his most interesting &amp; enjoyable post-war films. Sure, the man was aging, but in many ways, his skill as an actor, if not as a movie star, still shone through, though it would have been wonderful to see him in more varied films after leaving MGM. I think Gable is very unfairly under-rated as an actor today, especially his ability to handle dialogue with skill and to use his worn face most expressively.

I&#039;ve added one of the &lt;b&gt;Ronald Reagan&lt;/b&gt; cigarette advertisements to the above post. While he once smoked 3 packs of Chesterfields a day, the famous jar of jelly beans kept in the White House while he was president was there in part to help Mr. Reagan to avoid indulging the habit. 

Hi Jenni,
I loved &lt;b&gt;Christopher Buckley&lt;/b&gt;&#039;s book and the appallingly funny and accurately satirical film, &lt;b&gt;Thank You For Not Smoking&lt;/b&gt;. 

Re: Product Placement.
One of the aspects of this relationship between the studios and the movie star endorsements that I found when researching this article was that  in the early &#039;30s, the forerunner of the MPAA specifically rejected product placement in movies, though, since the cigarette manufacturers supplied studios and their employees with free cigarettes, the habit was portrayed quite often on screen, even if specific brands weren&#039;t mentioned. As shown in numerous films of the period, there was a glamour to the black and white photography of smoke on film that made it a visually alluring element of movies too. Of course, all bets seem to be off nowadays when it comes to product placement!

Hey Jacqueline, 
Your mention of those other &quot;300 pound gorillas&quot; such as racism and sexism reminded me that we could also explore the liquor endorsement ads of that time. During this same period I suspect that the booze boosting ads might easily outstrip the sheer number of tobacco related ads. As ephemera, they are fascinating to see, whether a high end brandy ad is trying to appeal to the yearning of readers&#039; for worldly sophistication associated with a particular actor or a beer ad is touting their product as a way to be &quot;one of the boys&quot;, which might be promoted by an earthier sort of actor. 

Oh John August Smith, 
I could not, of course, deal with everything associated with the tobacco industry endorsements of this period in one brief article, but I too was always bemused by the &quot;intellectual&quot; air of pipe smokers in movies of the time. As to those old ladies driving around while smoking, having been closely related to several such ladies, I think it helped them to concentrate while maneuvering through traffic and, if you&#039;ve ever been around anyone attempting to quit smoking, I sometimes wonder if perhaps it&#039;s best to leave well enough alone. It is one of the  toughest habits to change, and driving while going through nicotine withdrawal ain&#039;t pretty or easy.

Hey CoolBev,
It&#039;s interesting about those well-designed Ronson lighters, and I&#039;ve read that collecting tobacciana may be a good way to start an inexpensive collection. I have one of my father&#039;s for sentimental reasons. Just hearing the click of the lid being raised or lowered brings him back to me vividly for a moment. And yes, he died of congestive heart failure at too young an age after 45 years of smoking. 

Hi Medusa,
While I wish that several of the people I love in my life didn&#039;t smoke, I tend to think that once we adopt a habit, it really becomes a part of us, like it or not. I have no real wish to become one of those people who scolds others for their flaws--especially since I&#039;ve so many myself. As I mentioned in the article, I&#039;m pretty sure we humans will always find some way to complicate our lives and develop habits that we know rationally aren&#039;t good for us, but that we indulge anyway. I try to see such frailties as a lovable part of our humanity and hope that I can avoid judging others too harshly. Life&#039;s too short already and I&#039;m too fond of too many smokers as it is.  I really am glad you found this interesting. 

Thanks so much for all your observations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Helen,<br />
I was also surprised to find that <b>Amanda Blake</b> was among those listed in a report prepared by a branch of the American Cancer Society citing celebrated people whose death <i>may have</i> been related to smoking as well. </p>
<p>As I mentioned in the article, there are many factors that may have contributed to the demise of those on such lists, including the lack of antibiotics to fight serious disease when these individuals were young, overwork, nutritional deficiencies, and stress, as well as other ancillary illnesses. I&#8217;m very sorry that your brother suffered from AIDS, but sadly, I understand that opportunistic cancers may affect those whose immune systems are already compromised.</p>
<p>Good point, JLewis,<br />
I agree that to our eyes today, <b>Walt Disney</b> and <b>Clark Gable</b> looked much older than their ages. Tobacco use may certainly have affected their appearance and their health, though both men were also noted for their commitment to a remarkable work ethic, a lifestyle that included alcohol as well, and were engaged in a business notorious for its level of stress. In addition, they grew up in a time when vaccination was rare, as was medical treatment for common childhood diseases and food may not have been as plentiful or nutritious as it is today (despite our problems). Also, Mr. <b>Gable</b> endured the sudden loss of his wife, <b>Carole Lombard</b>, and went through years of rigorous experiences in WWII. There are some who feel that he was never truly the same after this period. </p>
<p>I think that your father had a good point, Al.<br />
Still, while I like <b>The Hucksters</b> okay, I find some of <b>Gable</b>&#8217;s later movies, in particular the critically lambasted <b>Adventure</b>,  <b>Any Number Can Play</b>, <b>Teacher&#8217;s Pet</b><b>, </b><b>But Not For Me</b> and most of all, <b>The Misfits</b> to be among his most interesting &amp; enjoyable post-war films. Sure, the man was aging, but in many ways, his skill as an actor, if not as a movie star, still shone through, though it would have been wonderful to see him in more varied films after leaving MGM. I think Gable is very unfairly under-rated as an actor today, especially his ability to handle dialogue with skill and to use his worn face most expressively.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve added one of the <b>Ronald Reagan</b> cigarette advertisements to the above post. While he once smoked 3 packs of Chesterfields a day, the famous jar of jelly beans kept in the White House while he was president was there in part to help Mr. Reagan to avoid indulging the habit. </p>
<p>Hi Jenni,<br />
I loved <b>Christopher Buckley</b>&#8217;s book and the appallingly funny and accurately satirical film, <b>Thank You For Not Smoking</b>. </p>
<p>Re: Product Placement.<br />
One of the aspects of this relationship between the studios and the movie star endorsements that I found when researching this article was that  in the early &#8217;30s, the forerunner of the MPAA specifically rejected product placement in movies, though, since the cigarette manufacturers supplied studios and their employees with free cigarettes, the habit was portrayed quite often on screen, even if specific brands weren&#8217;t mentioned. As shown in numerous films of the period, there was a glamour to the black and white photography of smoke on film that made it a visually alluring element of movies too. Of course, all bets seem to be off nowadays when it comes to product placement!</p>
<p>Hey Jacqueline,<br />
Your mention of those other &#8220;300 pound gorillas&#8221; such as racism and sexism reminded me that we could also explore the liquor endorsement ads of that time. During this same period I suspect that the booze boosting ads might easily outstrip the sheer number of tobacco related ads. As ephemera, they are fascinating to see, whether a high end brandy ad is trying to appeal to the yearning of readers&#8217; for worldly sophistication associated with a particular actor or a beer ad is touting their product as a way to be &#8220;one of the boys&#8221;, which might be promoted by an earthier sort of actor. </p>
<p>Oh John August Smith,<br />
I could not, of course, deal with everything associated with the tobacco industry endorsements of this period in one brief article, but I too was always bemused by the &#8220;intellectual&#8221; air of pipe smokers in movies of the time. As to those old ladies driving around while smoking, having been closely related to several such ladies, I think it helped them to concentrate while maneuvering through traffic and, if you&#8217;ve ever been around anyone attempting to quit smoking, I sometimes wonder if perhaps it&#8217;s best to leave well enough alone. It is one of the  toughest habits to change, and driving while going through nicotine withdrawal ain&#8217;t pretty or easy.</p>
<p>Hey CoolBev,<br />
It&#8217;s interesting about those well-designed Ronson lighters, and I&#8217;ve read that collecting tobacciana may be a good way to start an inexpensive collection. I have one of my father&#8217;s for sentimental reasons. Just hearing the click of the lid being raised or lowered brings him back to me vividly for a moment. And yes, he died of congestive heart failure at too young an age after 45 years of smoking. </p>
<p>Hi Medusa,<br />
While I wish that several of the people I love in my life didn&#8217;t smoke, I tend to think that once we adopt a habit, it really becomes a part of us, like it or not. I have no real wish to become one of those people who scolds others for their flaws&#8211;especially since I&#8217;ve so many myself. As I mentioned in the article, I&#8217;m pretty sure we humans will always find some way to complicate our lives and develop habits that we know rationally aren&#8217;t good for us, but that we indulge anyway. I try to see such frailties as a lovable part of our humanity and hope that I can avoid judging others too harshly. Life&#8217;s too short already and I&#8217;m too fond of too many smokers as it is.  I really am glad you found this interesting. </p>
<p>Thanks so much for all your observations.</p>
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		<title>By: Helen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Helen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 16:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Informative article. It&#039;s interesting that you list Amanda Blake as a victim of smoking. If I remember correctly, she had contracted AIDS by being married to a bisexual man. My brother had AIDS and died of cancer as well. I don&#039;t know if they are correlated or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Informative article. It&#8217;s interesting that you list Amanda Blake as a victim of smoking. If I remember correctly, she had contracted AIDS by being married to a bisexual man. My brother had AIDS and died of cancer as well. I don&#8217;t know if they are correlated or not.</p>
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		<title>By: JLewis</title>
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		<dc:creator>JLewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 15:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can add to your bottom list Walt Disney, a HEAVY smoker. He and Clark Gable (born same year) both looked very old in their 50s-60s. Now, just IMAGINE him being around longer!

Also, one of my all-time favorite old time radio shows was Jack Benny&#039;s Program, sponsored by Lucy Strikes after 1944. He did make it past 39... actually eighty, I&#039;m guessing because he was a bit more &quot;moderate&quot; in his smoking? Then again, he COULD have lived as long as either Gracie Allen&#039;s hubby George Burns or Bob Hope...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can add to your bottom list Walt Disney, a HEAVY smoker. He and Clark Gable (born same year) both looked very old in their 50s-60s. Now, just IMAGINE him being around longer!</p>
<p>Also, one of my all-time favorite old time radio shows was Jack Benny&#8217;s Program, sponsored by Lucy Strikes after 1944. He did make it past 39&#8230; actually eighty, I&#8217;m guessing because he was a bit more &#8220;moderate&#8221; in his smoking? Then again, he COULD have lived as long as either Gracie Allen&#8217;s hubby George Burns or Bob Hope&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Al Lowe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al Lowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 15:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent job.

I never smoked either.

When I was looking at some old magazines several years ago, I was surprised to see cigarette ads featuring Ronald Reagan. 

As for The Hucksters, I like it, mainly because it was one of the few good movies, crowded with stars, that Gable made in the post-war era. My late uncle used to say that Gable never came back. Well, of course, he did come back, only to star in films much worse than the classics he made in the Thirties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent job.</p>
<p>I never smoked either.</p>
<p>When I was looking at some old magazines several years ago, I was surprised to see cigarette ads featuring Ronald Reagan. </p>
<p>As for The Hucksters, I like it, mainly because it was one of the few good movies, crowded with stars, that Gable made in the post-war era. My late uncle used to say that Gable never came back. Well, of course, he did come back, only to star in films much worse than the classics he made in the Thirties.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 13:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Christopher Buckley&#039;s book, Thank You For Smoking, and in the movie adaptation, a tobacco ad man is discussing a movie concept with a director(or a producer) and they mention several actors for the cast, insisting that a specific brand of cigarettes be used in the movie.  My guess is that advertisers still want their products to have prominent placement in movies, regardless of what the product is.  How wild it was for me to see the ads endorsing cigarette brands by famous actors and actresses! As a cure for avoiding sweets and soothing for the throat-Hah!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Christopher Buckley&#8217;s book, Thank You For Smoking, and in the movie adaptation, a tobacco ad man is discussing a movie concept with a director(or a producer) and they mention several actors for the cast, insisting that a specific brand of cigarettes be used in the movie.  My guess is that advertisers still want their products to have prominent placement in movies, regardless of what the product is.  How wild it was for me to see the ads endorsing cigarette brands by famous actors and actresses! As a cure for avoiding sweets and soothing for the throat-Hah!</p>
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		<dc:creator>Jacqueline T Lynch</dc:creator>
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		<description>This was superb.  Especially appreciated the list of unfortunate entertainers who lost their lives due to smoking-related circumstances.  Smoking in the old movies is as valid a subject for study as racism or sexism depicted in film, and sometimes we may regard it as the 300-pound gorilla in the room.  Great job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was superb.  Especially appreciated the list of unfortunate entertainers who lost their lives due to smoking-related circumstances.  Smoking in the old movies is as valid a subject for study as racism or sexism depicted in film, and sometimes we may regard it as the 300-pound gorilla in the room.  Great job.</p>
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