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	<title>Comments on: Peeping Chabrols and other Perversities: Sam Fuller&#8217;s Thieves After Dark (1984)</title>
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		<title>By: Al Lowe</title>
		<link>http://moviemorlocks.com/2009/03/24/thieves-after-dark-1984/#comment-7836</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Al Lowe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 05:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They always say: Be careful what you wish for because it may come true.
In your last communication with me, R. Emmet Sweeney, you seemed to be asking for reasoned and incisive criticism.
Okay, pal, you got it.

Director Sam Fuller had a fascinating life but you wouldn’t know it from your post. A newspaperman and crime reporter. Infantry soldier during World War II. A man who deserved and got both a Bronze Star and a Silver Star.

He made unique, startling and stunning movies. Again, this seems to be a secret you are keeping from your readers. These include: Fixed Bayonets, Pickup on South Street, House of Bamboo, Run of the Arrow, Crimson Kimono, Shock Corridor, Naked Kiss, Big Red One. You might have briefly mentioned each of these amazing films and talked about why they are worth seeing. Fuller’s work is not as well known as John Ford’s.

So far, you also don’t care to bother the readers by revealing much of the plots. This is unlike your Morlock colleagues. One of your Morlock chums wrote about Crinsom Kimono and talked about its story. I read your review of Thieves After Dark and I still don’t know what the damn thing is ABOUT! The problem with talking about only a couple of scenes is that you – and I do mean YOU - generally write about movies few movielovers have heard of, much less viewed.
When you wrote about another film, Me and My Gal, you loved talking about its scene spoofing Strange Interlude. I know the movie and don’t think much of the scene myself and also know that other studios and stars bashed that play around that time; I believe Groucho makes fun of it in Animal Crackers. 

You’re not the only one who can dredge up obscure stuff. You mention that Fuller got disenchanted and relocated to France when White Dog floundered. But in an interview in 1968 in his Los Angeles home with Eric Sherman and Martin Rubin he gave details on future projects that he wanted to do, including a couple movies he wanted to make in France. The one he did from that list of projects he mentioned was Big Red One.

Or, to sum this all up, You’re a Knucklehead.

Don’t take this too hard. I regretted that email to Moirafinnie after I sent it.

I also said that I could be wrong.

Years ago, when reviewing a play featuring actor Sidney Blackmer George S. Kaufman called him “the worst actor in the world.” Blackmer sued Kaufman and his paper and won. Inevitably, Kaufman had to write about Blackmer again. He saved his critique of his performance until the last line of his newspaper review. He wrote: “As for Sidney Blackmer, he wasn’t up to his usual standard.”

Yet, when you see Blackmer in films like Duel in the Sun, he seems quite accomplished.

Maybe there’s hope for you yet.

Also, I make you a promise. When I next respond to one of your posts I will not steal Kaufman’s line and say that you are not up to your usual standard.

Good luck!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They always say: Be careful what you wish for because it may come true.<br />
In your last communication with me, R. Emmet Sweeney, you seemed to be asking for reasoned and incisive criticism.<br />
Okay, pal, you got it.</p>
<p>Director Sam Fuller had a fascinating life but you wouldn’t know it from your post. A newspaperman and crime reporter. Infantry soldier during World War II. A man who deserved and got both a Bronze Star and a Silver Star.</p>
<p>He made unique, startling and stunning movies. Again, this seems to be a secret you are keeping from your readers. These include: Fixed Bayonets, Pickup on South Street, House of Bamboo, Run of the Arrow, Crimson Kimono, Shock Corridor, Naked Kiss, Big Red One. You might have briefly mentioned each of these amazing films and talked about why they are worth seeing. Fuller’s work is not as well known as John Ford’s.</p>
<p>So far, you also don’t care to bother the readers by revealing much of the plots. This is unlike your Morlock colleagues. One of your Morlock chums wrote about Crinsom Kimono and talked about its story. I read your review of Thieves After Dark and I still don’t know what the damn thing is ABOUT! The problem with talking about only a couple of scenes is that you – and I do mean YOU &#8211; generally write about movies few movielovers have heard of, much less viewed.<br />
When you wrote about another film, Me and My Gal, you loved talking about its scene spoofing Strange Interlude. I know the movie and don’t think much of the scene myself and also know that other studios and stars bashed that play around that time; I believe Groucho makes fun of it in Animal Crackers. </p>
<p>You’re not the only one who can dredge up obscure stuff. You mention that Fuller got disenchanted and relocated to France when White Dog floundered. But in an interview in 1968 in his Los Angeles home with Eric Sherman and Martin Rubin he gave details on future projects that he wanted to do, including a couple movies he wanted to make in France. The one he did from that list of projects he mentioned was Big Red One.</p>
<p>Or, to sum this all up, You’re a Knucklehead.</p>
<p>Don’t take this too hard. I regretted that email to Moirafinnie after I sent it.</p>
<p>I also said that I could be wrong.</p>
<p>Years ago, when reviewing a play featuring actor Sidney Blackmer George S. Kaufman called him “the worst actor in the world.” Blackmer sued Kaufman and his paper and won. Inevitably, Kaufman had to write about Blackmer again. He saved his critique of his performance until the last line of his newspaper review. He wrote: “As for Sidney Blackmer, he wasn’t up to his usual standard.”</p>
<p>Yet, when you see Blackmer in films like Duel in the Sun, he seems quite accomplished.</p>
<p>Maybe there’s hope for you yet.</p>
<p>Also, I make you a promise. When I next respond to one of your posts I will not steal Kaufman’s line and say that you are not up to your usual standard.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Suzi Doll</title>
		<link>http://moviemorlocks.com/2009/03/24/thieves-after-dark-1984/#comment-7817</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Kino-fist&quot; -- excellent phrase. 

Very interesting post on a film I knew nothing about, probably because I am a fair-weather Fuller fan. Love him when he&#039;s great but not so loyal when he&#039;s not so great. 

But, nicely done.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Kino-fist&#8221; &#8212; excellent phrase. </p>
<p>Very interesting post on a film I knew nothing about, probably because I am a fair-weather Fuller fan. Love him when he&#8217;s great but not so loyal when he&#8217;s not so great. </p>
<p>But, nicely done.</p>
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		<title>By: morlockjeff</title>
		<link>http://moviemorlocks.com/2009/03/24/thieves-after-dark-1984/#comment-7809</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As much as I love Fuller&#039;s films, I had a hard time making it all the way to the end of his 1989 film with Keith Carradine, STREET OF NO RETURN. It had a few effective moments but felt compromised by its obvious low budget and not particularly engaging international cast. THIEVES AFTER DARK sounds more promising and the added attraction of Chabrol in cameo is appealing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as I love Fuller&#8217;s films, I had a hard time making it all the way to the end of his 1989 film with Keith Carradine, STREET OF NO RETURN. It had a few effective moments but felt compromised by its obvious low budget and not particularly engaging international cast. THIEVES AFTER DARK sounds more promising and the added attraction of Chabrol in cameo is appealing.</p>
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		<title>By: moirafinnie</title>
		<link>http://moviemorlocks.com/2009/03/24/thieves-after-dark-1984/#comment-7795</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[moirafinnie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As someone whose respect for what you wittily describe as &lt;b&gt;Sam Fuller&lt;/b&gt;&#039;s &quot;kino-fist style&quot; has been growing in the last few years, (especially after seeing &lt;b&gt;Park Row&lt;/b&gt;, &lt;b&gt; The Steel Helmet&lt;/b&gt;, and &lt;b&gt;Fixed Bayonets&lt;/b&gt;--all of which scratched my need for a &lt;b&gt;Gene Evans&lt;/b&gt; fix from time to time), this movie sounds like a hoot. I&#039;ll definitely have to track it down, especially since the French don&#039;t seem to have had watered down &lt;b&gt;Fuller&lt;/b&gt;&#039;s tendency to MAKE MOVIES IN CAPITAL LETTERS!!

Thanks for writing this appreciation, Rob. You&#039;ve introduced me to a film I might never have known about otherwise.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone whose respect for what you wittily describe as <b>Sam Fuller</b>&#8216;s &#8220;kino-fist style&#8221; has been growing in the last few years, (especially after seeing <b>Park Row</b>, <b> The Steel Helmet</b>, and <b>Fixed Bayonets</b>&#8211;all of which scratched my need for a <b>Gene Evans</b> fix from time to time), this movie sounds like a hoot. I&#8217;ll definitely have to track it down, especially since the French don&#8217;t seem to have had watered down <b>Fuller</b>&#8216;s tendency to MAKE MOVIES IN CAPITAL LETTERS!!</p>
<p>Thanks for writing this appreciation, Rob. You&#8217;ve introduced me to a film I might never have known about otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: R. Emmet Sweeney</title>
		<link>http://moviemorlocks.com/2009/03/24/thieves-after-dark-1984/#comment-7793</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[R. Emmet Sweeney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I saw &quot;Dead Pigeon&quot; at the 2007 retro, and was impressed. I thought it worked very well as a parody of cold war spy thrillers, and Fuller&#039;s muscular form of montage is as strong as ever. I&#039;ll never forget the sequence where the lead watches &quot;Rio Bravo&quot; dubbed in German, and laughs hysterically when he hears John Wayne. The shootout in the pediatric ward also sticks in my brain. It&#039;s very playful and very funny. Definitely superior to &quot;Thieves&quot;.

It was supposed to be released on DVD by Fantoma years ago, but was caught up in rights squabbles. Christa Fuller even recorded a commentary track for it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw &#8220;Dead Pigeon&#8221; at the 2007 retro, and was impressed. I thought it worked very well as a parody of cold war spy thrillers, and Fuller&#8217;s muscular form of montage is as strong as ever. I&#8217;ll never forget the sequence where the lead watches &#8220;Rio Bravo&#8221; dubbed in German, and laughs hysterically when he hears John Wayne. The shootout in the pediatric ward also sticks in my brain. It&#8217;s very playful and very funny. Definitely superior to &#8220;Thieves&#8221;.</p>
<p>It was supposed to be released on DVD by Fantoma years ago, but was caught up in rights squabbles. Christa Fuller even recorded a commentary track for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
		<link>http://moviemorlocks.com/2009/03/24/thieves-after-dark-1984/#comment-7779</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Glad I&#039;m not the only one who has seen this rarity.  I wouldn&#039;t call it a very good movie, but it&#039;s of definite interest to Sam Fuller fans.  I saw the American-accented dub as well, and it&#039;s a nightmare... hope someone releases a version with reasonable audio some day.

If you can, check out &quot;Dead Pigeon On Beethoven Street.&quot;  It has far crazier story and style than &quot;Thieves After Dark&quot;, and is almost as obscure (&quot;Dead Pigeon&quot; at least got screened at the 2007 retrospective).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad I&#8217;m not the only one who has seen this rarity.  I wouldn&#8217;t call it a very good movie, but it&#8217;s of definite interest to Sam Fuller fans.  I saw the American-accented dub as well, and it&#8217;s a nightmare&#8230; hope someone releases a version with reasonable audio some day.</p>
<p>If you can, check out &#8220;Dead Pigeon On Beethoven Street.&#8221;  It has far crazier story and style than &#8220;Thieves After Dark&#8221;, and is almost as obscure (&#8220;Dead Pigeon&#8221; at least got screened at the 2007 retrospective).</p>
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