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		<title>By: TED JOHNSON</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 22:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE MASQUERADER WITH RONALD COLEMaN MADE IN 1933. iT HAS THE CAR i HAD IN 1947.a 1928 HISPANO-SUIZA THAT WAS MADE FOR gRACE MOORE.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE MASQUERADER WITH RONALD COLEMaN MADE IN 1933. iT HAS THE CAR i HAD IN 1947.a 1928 HISPANO-SUIZA THAT WAS MADE FOR gRACE MOORE.</p>
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		<title>By: moirafinnie</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[JC asked:
&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Query: Who is speaking the first line of this article: “I’ve never met anyone like Ronald Coleman.”?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JC asked:<br />
<b><i>Query: Who is speaking the first line of this article: “I’ve never met anyone like Ronald Coleman.”?</i></b></p>
<p>I am speaking as the author of this piece.</p>
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		<title>By: JC(NYC)</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 05:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Query: Who is speaking the first line of this article: &quot;I&#039;ve never met anyone like Ronald Coleman.&quot;? 

Thank you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Query: Who is speaking the first line of this article: &#8220;I&#8217;ve never met anyone like Ronald Coleman.&#8221;? </p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 15:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great topic for a subject worthy of a revival of interest. Ronald Colman&#039;s &lt;b&gt;Bulldog Drummond&lt;/b&gt; (1929) was great fun, since he resolutely refused to accept the idea that the melodrama should be played straight. I&#039;m not a particular fan of the overall drama of &lt;b&gt;A Double Life&lt;/b&gt; however. I think Colman was great, (particularly his glassy-eyed last moment on screen), but it seemed unnecessarily lugubrious and had a bit too much of that Freudian air that permeated Hollywood in the &#039;40s and &#039;50s. I suspect that Ronald Colman was awarded an Oscar for that role in recognition of the body of work he&#039;d created over three decades.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great topic for a subject worthy of a revival of interest. Ronald Colman&#8217;s <b>Bulldog Drummond</b> (1929) was great fun, since he resolutely refused to accept the idea that the melodrama should be played straight. I&#8217;m not a particular fan of the overall drama of <b>A Double Life</b> however. I think Colman was great, (particularly his glassy-eyed last moment on screen), but it seemed unnecessarily lugubrious and had a bit too much of that Freudian air that permeated Hollywood in the &#8217;40s and &#8217;50s. I suspect that Ronald Colman was awarded an Oscar for that role in recognition of the body of work he&#8217;d created over three decades.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 12:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll just put in my plug for 1934&#039;s Bulldog Drummond Strikes Back, possibly the best one in the series, and also the hardest to see (probably due to some rights issue). It&#039;s the perfect template for an action/adventure/mystery with great pacing and Coleman in fine light-hearted form. It&#039;d be nice to see this one resurface in some form.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll just put in my plug for 1934&#8242;s Bulldog Drummond Strikes Back, possibly the best one in the series, and also the hardest to see (probably due to some rights issue). It&#8217;s the perfect template for an action/adventure/mystery with great pacing and Coleman in fine light-hearted form. It&#8217;d be nice to see this one resurface in some form.</p>
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		<title>By: Suzi Doll</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 20:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting that you should call this post &quot;The Duality of Ronald Colman,&quot; because my favorite Colman movie is A DOUBLE LIFE in which he plays an actor who can&#039;t separate his onstage characters from his own personality. Colman is excellent in it. I have not seen the movie in years; the one and only time I saw it was when I showed it on 16mm film in one of my classes. I picked it at random from a catalogue because I had never seen it and knew nothing about it -- that way I could see it as my students saw it. It turned out to be the class&#039;s favorite film of the semester, and none of them had ever heard of Colman prior to seeing the film. Thanks for calling attention to a star who deserves a DVD package.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting that you should call this post &#8220;The Duality of Ronald Colman,&#8221; because my favorite Colman movie is A DOUBLE LIFE in which he plays an actor who can&#8217;t separate his onstage characters from his own personality. Colman is excellent in it. I have not seen the movie in years; the one and only time I saw it was when I showed it on 16mm film in one of my classes. I picked it at random from a catalogue because I had never seen it and knew nothing about it &#8212; that way I could see it as my students saw it. It turned out to be the class&#8217;s favorite film of the semester, and none of them had ever heard of Colman prior to seeing the film. Thanks for calling attention to a star who deserves a DVD package.</p>
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		<title>By: moirafinnie</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 13:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, Al,
I am sorry if I gave the impression that I thought Colman was &quot;a perfect person&quot;--far from it. Nor do I think we are really that different in our points of view. 

Essentially, I was trying to explain that I believed, based on my interpretation of Schickel&#039;s &lt;b&gt;The Men Who Made the Movies&lt;/b&gt; segment on &lt;b&gt;Wellman&lt;/b&gt; and the director&#039;s own autobiography, that Wild Bill--in his impatience with Colman&#039;s &quot;apparent forgetting&quot; of his lines--was using the coolness between Colman and Lupino to evoke a better performance from both. Sorry if I didn&#039;t express it clearly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, Al,<br />
I am sorry if I gave the impression that I thought Colman was &#8220;a perfect person&#8221;&#8211;far from it. Nor do I think we are really that different in our points of view. </p>
<p>Essentially, I was trying to explain that I believed, based on my interpretation of Schickel&#8217;s <b>The Men Who Made the Movies</b> segment on <b>Wellman</b> and the director&#8217;s own autobiography, that Wild Bill&#8211;in his impatience with Colman&#8217;s &#8220;apparent forgetting&#8221; of his lines&#8211;was using the coolness between Colman and Lupino to evoke a better performance from both. Sorry if I didn&#8217;t express it clearly.</p>
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		<title>By: kittypackard</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 00:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Exquisite post!]]></description>
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		<title>By: Al Lowe</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 22:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s funny that you should bring up Halls of Ivy.

After the incident involving Lupino, Wellman and Colman, Halls of Ivy featured a character who was a bad guy. His name was Wellman.

Moriafinnie, with all due respect - which, of course, you have earned - I think that we are going to have to agree to disagree. I know I sound like Sidney Falco buttering up J.J. Hunsecker or one of the flunkies schmoozing the Godfather but I  am sincere.

Wellman made his comments, which were pretty much the way I reported them, for a PBS show and a book that was written by Richard Schickel and published later. 
Wellman said he made allowances that maybe Colman was blown away by Lupino and so quickly did a second take and again Colman forgot his lines. The reason Wellman thought it was on purpose was &quot;Colman is like Stanwyck. She doesn&#039;t know only her own part but she knows the whole script. Got one of those retentive memories that is absolutely fantastic.&quot;

Colman was one of the best loved actors in Hollywood and it doesn&#039;t surprise me that he later made friends with Lupino and even with Wellman. But he was a human being and not a perfect person. I have wondered how many of the great stars will be allowed to enter the gates of Heaven. Not many - unless God grades on a curve and that is what we are all hoping for.

I have written many articles as a free lance newspaper reporter. And it never surprises me when people try to change what they originally said because of reactions from others. Sienna Miller did some filming in Pittsburgh and referred to the city by a terrible nickname in an interview for a magazine (Rolling Stone, I think). She tried later to say it was out of context. How can it possibly be out of context? 

So it wouldn&#039;t surprise me if Wellman tried to change his story later.

I believe I started responding to the Morlocks last January and I have enjoyed myself and have appreciated the great writing you all do.

Yes. Happy Holidays to everybody!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny that you should bring up Halls of Ivy.</p>
<p>After the incident involving Lupino, Wellman and Colman, Halls of Ivy featured a character who was a bad guy. His name was Wellman.</p>
<p>Moriafinnie, with all due respect &#8211; which, of course, you have earned &#8211; I think that we are going to have to agree to disagree. I know I sound like Sidney Falco buttering up J.J. Hunsecker or one of the flunkies schmoozing the Godfather but I  am sincere.</p>
<p>Wellman made his comments, which were pretty much the way I reported them, for a PBS show and a book that was written by Richard Schickel and published later.<br />
Wellman said he made allowances that maybe Colman was blown away by Lupino and so quickly did a second take and again Colman forgot his lines. The reason Wellman thought it was on purpose was &#8220;Colman is like Stanwyck. She doesn&#8217;t know only her own part but she knows the whole script. Got one of those retentive memories that is absolutely fantastic.&#8221;</p>
<p>Colman was one of the best loved actors in Hollywood and it doesn&#8217;t surprise me that he later made friends with Lupino and even with Wellman. But he was a human being and not a perfect person. I have wondered how many of the great stars will be allowed to enter the gates of Heaven. Not many &#8211; unless God grades on a curve and that is what we are all hoping for.</p>
<p>I have written many articles as a free lance newspaper reporter. And it never surprises me when people try to change what they originally said because of reactions from others. Sienna Miller did some filming in Pittsburgh and referred to the city by a terrible nickname in an interview for a magazine (Rolling Stone, I think). She tried later to say it was out of context. How can it possibly be out of context? </p>
<p>So it wouldn&#8217;t surprise me if Wellman tried to change his story later.</p>
<p>I believe I started responding to the Morlocks last January and I have enjoyed myself and have appreciated the great writing you all do.</p>
<p>Yes. Happy Holidays to everybody!</p>
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		<title>By: moirafinnie</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 19:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Al, 
Good point about &lt;strong&gt;The Light That Failed&lt;/strong&gt;, though &lt;strong&gt;Colman&lt;/strong&gt; and &lt;strong&gt;Lupino&lt;/strong&gt; were not required to have anything like a love scene, (more like a mutual &quot;hate scene&quot;!). Reportedly, most sources say that &lt;b&gt;Colman&lt;/b&gt; favored &lt;b&gt;Vivien Leigh&lt;/b&gt; for the role in &lt;b&gt;The Light That Failed&lt;/b&gt; (1939), one of the best and least seen of &lt;b&gt;Colman&lt;/b&gt;&#039;s films, (though it&#039;s always puzzled me that &lt;b&gt;Walter Huston&lt;/b&gt; seems quite wasted in his &quot;friend of the hero&quot; role in the touching &lt;b&gt;Kipling&lt;/b&gt; story of an artist who is gradually going blind).

One note to remember is that according to both &lt;b&gt;Wellman&lt;/b&gt; and &lt;b&gt;Lupino&lt;/b&gt;, her unexpectedly vivid portrayal of the cockney slut who modeled for &lt;b&gt;Colman&lt;/b&gt;&#039;s artist was not rehearsed with the other actors until the day of the shoot. &lt;b&gt;Wellman&lt;/b&gt;, who was bowled over by the performance that she put on for him in his office and kept her away from the other actors, perhaps in part to manipulate the others into reacting to her in a fresh way, (even though that may have been anathema to Colman&#039;s often careful preparations for his scenes). So, aside from wishing that &lt;b&gt;Leigh&lt;/b&gt; could have played the part, some of the distance between &lt;b&gt;Lupino&lt;/b&gt; and &lt;b&gt;Colman&lt;/b&gt; may have been deliberately fostered by the director as well. 

&lt;b&gt;Colman&lt;/b&gt;&#039;s character, who did not have &lt;i&gt;any&lt;/i&gt; love for &lt;b&gt;Lupino&lt;/b&gt;&#039;s harridan artist model; was never in a love scene with her, but was, in a sense, her tormentor, requiring her to pose for long hours. The enmity between the pair was an asset for that scene and was, by director &lt;strong&gt;Wellman&lt;/strong&gt;&#039;s admission, manipulated in part by him, according to his memoir, &quot;A Short Time For Insanity&quot;. &lt;b&gt;Wellman&lt;/b&gt; later wrote that &quot;I was a wild guy. I&#039;m housetrained now and have been for some years; however, the time during which I directed &lt;i&gt;Light&lt;/i&gt; was my wildest time of all. A lot of people didn&#039;t want to work for me, nor did I want to work with them.

&quot;Now we come to Mr. &lt;strong&gt;Colman&lt;/strong&gt;. He and I didn&#039;t like each other from the very start. When they called me in and said they wanted to do this film with him, I said I loved the idea of doing &lt;em&gt;Light&lt;/em&gt; but I though &lt;strong&gt;Wellman&lt;/strong&gt; and &lt;strong&gt;Colman&lt;/strong&gt; wasn&#039;t such a good idea...I was a crazy guy, and he was very much the gentleman...he proved very hard to know.&quot; 

In any case, I think that &lt;strong&gt;Colman&lt;/strong&gt;&#039;s frantic intensity in that scene may have been fed by his contretemps with the director and an honest reaction to &lt;strong&gt;Ida&lt;/strong&gt;&#039;s pulling out all the stops. After the incident that you referred to with &lt;strong&gt;Lupino&lt;/strong&gt;, the actress became a frequent guest at the home of &lt;strong&gt;Colman&lt;/strong&gt; and his wife &lt;strong&gt;Benita Hume&lt;/strong&gt; and they were friends from then on, and very active in British war relief efforts together.

Hi Medusa:
Thanks for adding the link to the &lt;strong&gt;Colman&lt;/strong&gt;&#039;s &lt;strong&gt;Halls of Ivy&lt;/strong&gt;, a radio show that they performed on together and briefly appeared on television in 1954 in the roles. You&#039;re so right about his voice being MADE for radio. 

You can listen to more &lt;strong&gt;Colman&lt;/strong&gt; radio appearances at the link below too, including an aural version of &lt;b&gt; A Tale of Two Cities&lt;/b&gt; and &lt;strong&gt;A Christmas Carol&lt;/strong&gt;! I found that listening to some of his radio programs the skillful color and nuanced shading that he gave words was especially noticeable, bringing his characters to life in a way that is sometimes sharper than it seems in the movies. Thanks for adding the link, Medusa!

Btw, Happy New Year to All!
http://www.classicmoviefavorites.com/colman/ivy.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Al,<br />
Good point about <strong>The Light That Failed</strong>, though <strong>Colman</strong> and <strong>Lupino</strong> were not required to have anything like a love scene, (more like a mutual &#8220;hate scene&#8221;!). Reportedly, most sources say that <b>Colman</b> favored <b>Vivien Leigh</b> for the role in <b>The Light That Failed</b> (1939), one of the best and least seen of <b>Colman</b>&#8216;s films, (though it&#8217;s always puzzled me that <b>Walter Huston</b> seems quite wasted in his &#8220;friend of the hero&#8221; role in the touching <b>Kipling</b> story of an artist who is gradually going blind).</p>
<p>One note to remember is that according to both <b>Wellman</b> and <b>Lupino</b>, her unexpectedly vivid portrayal of the cockney slut who modeled for <b>Colman</b>&#8216;s artist was not rehearsed with the other actors until the day of the shoot. <b>Wellman</b>, who was bowled over by the performance that she put on for him in his office and kept her away from the other actors, perhaps in part to manipulate the others into reacting to her in a fresh way, (even though that may have been anathema to Colman&#8217;s often careful preparations for his scenes). So, aside from wishing that <b>Leigh</b> could have played the part, some of the distance between <b>Lupino</b> and <b>Colman</b> may have been deliberately fostered by the director as well. </p>
<p><b>Colman</b>&#8216;s character, who did not have <i>any</i> love for <b>Lupino</b>&#8216;s harridan artist model; was never in a love scene with her, but was, in a sense, her tormentor, requiring her to pose for long hours. The enmity between the pair was an asset for that scene and was, by director <strong>Wellman</strong>&#8216;s admission, manipulated in part by him, according to his memoir, &#8220;A Short Time For Insanity&#8221;. <b>Wellman</b> later wrote that &#8220;I was a wild guy. I&#8217;m housetrained now and have been for some years; however, the time during which I directed <i>Light</i> was my wildest time of all. A lot of people didn&#8217;t want to work for me, nor did I want to work with them.</p>
<p>&#8220;Now we come to Mr. <strong>Colman</strong>. He and I didn&#8217;t like each other from the very start. When they called me in and said they wanted to do this film with him, I said I loved the idea of doing <em>Light</em> but I though <strong>Wellman</strong> and <strong>Colman</strong> wasn&#8217;t such a good idea&#8230;I was a crazy guy, and he was very much the gentleman&#8230;he proved very hard to know.&#8221; </p>
<p>In any case, I think that <strong>Colman</strong>&#8216;s frantic intensity in that scene may have been fed by his contretemps with the director and an honest reaction to <strong>Ida</strong>&#8216;s pulling out all the stops. After the incident that you referred to with <strong>Lupino</strong>, the actress became a frequent guest at the home of <strong>Colman</strong> and his wife <strong>Benita Hume</strong> and they were friends from then on, and very active in British war relief efforts together.</p>
<p>Hi Medusa:<br />
Thanks for adding the link to the <strong>Colman</strong>&#8216;s <strong>Halls of Ivy</strong>, a radio show that they performed on together and briefly appeared on television in 1954 in the roles. You&#8217;re so right about his voice being MADE for radio. </p>
<p>You can listen to more <strong>Colman</strong> radio appearances at the link below too, including an aural version of <b> A Tale of Two Cities</b> and <strong>A Christmas Carol</strong>! I found that listening to some of his radio programs the skillful color and nuanced shading that he gave words was especially noticeable, bringing his characters to life in a way that is sometimes sharper than it seems in the movies. Thanks for adding the link, Medusa!</p>
<p>Btw, Happy New Year to All!<br />
<a href="http://www.classicmoviefavorites.com/colman/ivy.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.classicmoviefavorites.com/colman/ivy.html</a></p>
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