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		<title>By: Joe aka Mongo</title>
		<link>http://moviemorlocks.com/2008/12/02/disney-death-fake-outs-exposed/#comment-6385</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe aka Mongo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hsmith, this blog tugged at the heart strings. I&#039;ve seen most of the Disney films that you mentioned and &quot;Bambi&quot; remains my favorite (the artwork is exceptional).
And of all the sad moments I can&#039;t help but remember the little happy scrappy dog walking to his demise in &quot;The Lady and the Tramp&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hsmith, this blog tugged at the heart strings. I&#8217;ve seen most of the Disney films that you mentioned and &#8220;Bambi&#8221; remains my favorite (the artwork is exceptional).<br />
And of all the sad moments I can&#8217;t help but remember the little happy scrappy dog walking to his demise in &#8220;The Lady and the Tramp&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Molo</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My parents took me to a double feature of Disney&#039;s live action animal film &quot;The Legend of Lobo&quot; followed by &quot;Dumbo&quot;. I was around five years old. I don&#039;t remember anything much but the trauma. Something horrible happened in &quot;Lobo&quot; maybe his mom died or he died, I don&#039;t remember exactly and I don&#039;t want to ever watch it again for fear of releasing years of suppressed emotions. 

When we finally got to &quot;Dumbo&quot; I was pretty much played out. He was so cute. When they took away his mother and then did the &quot;Baby Mine&quot; number the tears started flowing again. The whole show basically put me through the ringer and amounted to one big crying jag. Gee! Thanks Uncle Walt. In his defense, I was probably an overly sensitive child. My parents were no doubt happy that, having gone through the ringer of emotional distress, I was most likely tired out and ready for bed by the time the end credits roled. Maybe Disney new what he was doing after all. While I don&#039;t want to think about &quot;Lobo&quot;, &quot;Dumbo&quot; has, oddly enough, become my favorite Disney character. I guess the happy ending eventually sank in.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My parents took me to a double feature of Disney&#8217;s live action animal film &#8220;The Legend of Lobo&#8221; followed by &#8220;Dumbo&#8221;. I was around five years old. I don&#8217;t remember anything much but the trauma. Something horrible happened in &#8220;Lobo&#8221; maybe his mom died or he died, I don&#8217;t remember exactly and I don&#8217;t want to ever watch it again for fear of releasing years of suppressed emotions. </p>
<p>When we finally got to &#8220;Dumbo&#8221; I was pretty much played out. He was so cute. When they took away his mother and then did the &#8220;Baby Mine&#8221; number the tears started flowing again. The whole show basically put me through the ringer and amounted to one big crying jag. Gee! Thanks Uncle Walt. In his defense, I was probably an overly sensitive child. My parents were no doubt happy that, having gone through the ringer of emotional distress, I was most likely tired out and ready for bed by the time the end credits roled. Maybe Disney new what he was doing after all. While I don&#8217;t want to think about &#8220;Lobo&#8221;, &#8220;Dumbo&#8221; has, oddly enough, become my favorite Disney character. I guess the happy ending eventually sank in.</p>
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		<title>By: RHS</title>
		<link>http://moviemorlocks.com/2008/12/02/disney-death-fake-outs-exposed/#comment-6369</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RHS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 02:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;I don’t recall Dumbo’s mother being sentenced to death. Didn’t they just lock her up? What do you do with a dead elephant anyway?&lt;/i&gt;

What do you do with a &lt;i&gt;mad&lt;/i&gt; one?  Everyone is, of course, within their rights to come to any conclusion not contradicted by the facts of the case but I think it was safe to assume the makers of &lt;b&gt;Dumbo&lt;/b&gt; wanted us to believe Dumbo&#039;s mother was going to be put down as a presumed mad elephant (much as would be done with a rabid dog).  I refer you to the case of &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topsy_(elephant)&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Topsy v. the Circus&lt;/a&gt;, 1903.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I don’t recall Dumbo’s mother being sentenced to death. Didn’t they just lock her up? What do you do with a dead elephant anyway?</i></p>
<p>What do you do with a <i>mad</i> one?  Everyone is, of course, within their rights to come to any conclusion not contradicted by the facts of the case but I think it was safe to assume the makers of <b>Dumbo</b> wanted us to believe Dumbo&#8217;s mother was going to be put down as a presumed mad elephant (much as would be done with a rabid dog).  I refer you to the case of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topsy_(elephant)" rel="nofollow">Topsy v. the Circus</a>, 1903.</p>
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		<title>By: RHS</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 21:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mitzi, dear heart, did you actually read &lt;i&gt;any&lt;/i&gt; of my post?  Which, I hasten to point out, Al said was &quot;brilliant.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mitzi, dear heart, did you actually read <i>any</i> of my post?  Which, I hasten to point out, Al said was &#8220;brilliant.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: mawnck</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mawnck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 19:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A few notes: I don&#039;t recall Dumbo&#039;s mother being sentenced to death. Didn&#039;t they just lock her up? What do you do with a dead elephant anyway?

Trusty DID die in the original script of Lady and the Tramp. It was Peggy Lee (who wrote the score and voiced Peg) that pitched a fit and got them to change the ending.

The one that always gets me is Sleeping Beauty, where the good fairies carry on like she&#039;s dead even though they know darn well she ain&#039;t.

You wanna see a good Disney death? Check out &quot;Willie the Operatic Whale&quot; in Make Mine Music. He gets harpooned. On camera. Doesn&#039;t come back. The end.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few notes: I don&#8217;t recall Dumbo&#8217;s mother being sentenced to death. Didn&#8217;t they just lock her up? What do you do with a dead elephant anyway?</p>
<p>Trusty DID die in the original script of Lady and the Tramp. It was Peggy Lee (who wrote the score and voiced Peg) that pitched a fit and got them to change the ending.</p>
<p>The one that always gets me is Sleeping Beauty, where the good fairies carry on like she&#8217;s dead even though they know darn well she ain&#8217;t.</p>
<p>You wanna see a good Disney death? Check out &#8220;Willie the Operatic Whale&#8221; in Make Mine Music. He gets harpooned. On camera. Doesn&#8217;t come back. The end.</p>
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		<title>By: mitzi</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 04:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dumbo&#039;s mother was not killed.  She was riding in the back of a train in luxury at the end of the movie.  The movie did have a happy ending with a living mother.  I don&#039;t know why anyone would want to misrepresent the plot-just to make a point, even if it isn&#039;t true?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dumbo&#8217;s mother was not killed.  She was riding in the back of a train in luxury at the end of the movie.  The movie did have a happy ending with a living mother.  I don&#8217;t know why anyone would want to misrepresent the plot-just to make a point, even if it isn&#8217;t true?</p>
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		<title>By: Tiffany</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tiffany]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I often laugh at the irony of Dumbo; the minute that Betty Noyes sings &quot;Baby Mine, don&#039;t you cry.....&quot; that&#039;s exactly what your start doing!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I often laugh at the irony of Dumbo; the minute that Betty Noyes sings &#8220;Baby Mine, don&#8217;t you cry&#8230;..&#8221; that&#8217;s exactly what your start doing!</p>
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		<title>By: Al Lowe</title>
		<link>http://moviemorlocks.com/2008/12/02/disney-death-fake-outs-exposed/#comment-6297</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Al Lowe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A brilliant post. Thank you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A brilliant post. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Erika</title>
		<link>http://moviemorlocks.com/2008/12/02/disney-death-fake-outs-exposed/#comment-6293</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erika]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think you may have blocked out the &#039;fake deaths&#039; because you were so traumatized as a child.  They continued on well after Disney&#039;s death.

In Robin Hood, poor Robin falls into the moat with arrows through his hat.  It&#039;s only after Little John grows sad that we find Robin survived.  In the Fox &amp; the Hound (a movie I still have a hard time watching because of this scene) we see Tod the fox fall to &#039;his death&#039; off a waterfall after battling a bear.  His best friend, Copper, finds him alive at the bottom, but only after we&#039;ve been treated to a moment of horror.

In The Great Mouse Detective, Basil of Baker Street is yanked by the evil Ratigan off his balloon platform to fall &#039;to his death&#039;.  Again, we have a five second pause before he&#039;s revealed to be alive and well and hanging on to a flying contraption.

Now, those were offscreen--but one of the best on-screen fake deaths is the only Oscar Nominated animated film--Beauty &amp; the Beast.  Though I don&#039;t think anyone believed he was really DEAD, the Beast did fall &#039;unconscious&#039; from his wounds until Belle whispered she loved him (cue the happy magical transformation into good-looking prince).  

And as mentioned above, the death on the Lion King about overshadows everything else.  It was bad enough to see Mufasa murdered by Scar and fall into the stampede, but then to see his body approached and cuddled by traumatized little Simba?  Yikes!  I get teary even now!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you may have blocked out the &#8216;fake deaths&#8217; because you were so traumatized as a child.  They continued on well after Disney&#8217;s death.</p>
<p>In Robin Hood, poor Robin falls into the moat with arrows through his hat.  It&#8217;s only after Little John grows sad that we find Robin survived.  In the Fox &amp; the Hound (a movie I still have a hard time watching because of this scene) we see Tod the fox fall to &#8216;his death&#8217; off a waterfall after battling a bear.  His best friend, Copper, finds him alive at the bottom, but only after we&#8217;ve been treated to a moment of horror.</p>
<p>In The Great Mouse Detective, Basil of Baker Street is yanked by the evil Ratigan off his balloon platform to fall &#8216;to his death&#8217;.  Again, we have a five second pause before he&#8217;s revealed to be alive and well and hanging on to a flying contraption.</p>
<p>Now, those were offscreen&#8211;but one of the best on-screen fake deaths is the only Oscar Nominated animated film&#8211;Beauty &amp; the Beast.  Though I don&#8217;t think anyone believed he was really DEAD, the Beast did fall &#8216;unconscious&#8217; from his wounds until Belle whispered she loved him (cue the happy magical transformation into good-looking prince).  </p>
<p>And as mentioned above, the death on the Lion King about overshadows everything else.  It was bad enough to see Mufasa murdered by Scar and fall into the stampede, but then to see his body approached and cuddled by traumatized little Simba?  Yikes!  I get teary even now!</p>
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		<title>By: Angela</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Angela]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was really sad when Mufasa died on the Lion King.  That broke my heart, too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was really sad when Mufasa died on the Lion King.  That broke my heart, too.</p>
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