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	<title>Comments on: The Quiet Power of Dorothy McGuire Part II</title>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
		<link>http://moviemorlocks.com/2008/11/12/the-quiet-power-of-dorothy-mcguire-part-ii/#comment-15825</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2011 14:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for that wonderful article. I have been a fan of McGuire since I was a child and have recently rewatched a number of her films. She had a truly charismatic quality.
It&#039;s a pity so many of her films are unavailable on dvd in the UK.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for that wonderful article. I have been a fan of McGuire since I was a child and have recently rewatched a number of her films. She had a truly charismatic quality.<br />
It&#8217;s a pity so many of her films are unavailable on dvd in the UK.</p>
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		<title>By: catherine kipp</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[catherine kipp]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 00:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you, Rand, of dec 15, 2008.  You also remembered &quot;Ghost Dancer&quot; with Richard Farnsworth.  Very compelling.  Would love to see it again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Rand, of dec 15, 2008.  You also remembered &#8220;Ghost Dancer&#8221; with Richard Farnsworth.  Very compelling.  Would love to see it again.</p>
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		<title>By: CineMaven</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 15:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My Epson printer died...just conked out on me. So at my neighborhood coffee shop, I sit with my scrambled eggs and MacBook Pro laptop to read your article on Dorothy McGuire. The waitress who sometimes forgets about me, suddenly jolts remembering to give me my second cup o&#039; tea.

As she passes by to serve another customer, she stops, leans close to me as I&#039;m reading your blog and asks: &quot;Who is that?&quot; I say, &quot;It&#039;s Dorothy McGuire. She was one of the big actresses of the 40&#039;s. I&#039;m into old films, and on this site people write about films and stars from the 30&#039;s and 40&#039;s.&quot; The waitress said, &quot;McGuire? Hmmm. She&#039;s very beautiful.&quot; And I say &quot;thank you for asking.&quot; I get my tea and drink...and feel vaguely emotional.

Nah...it&#039;s not the caffeine. It&#039;s the fact that this waitress noticed and commented on McGuire. It&#039;s the fact that your essay is wonderfully written and I kind of feel totally ashamed at my sometimes flippant writing on the TCM Message Board. You&#039;ve inspired and aspired me to write more seriously. I&#039;ve become a big Dorothy McGuire fan in recent years. You capture it so well when you write: 

&quot;She was unconventional in her naturalism; neither a glossy fantasy nor a femme fatale, but something in between that Hollywood found vexing to cast–an undeniably intelligent actress,&#039;

and the comparisons to Betty Field, Martha Scott, Margaret O&#039;Sullavan and their ilk are very apropos. 

Thank you for the essay and your writing. Maybe I&#039;m getting touched in my old age...or just being touched by great writing.

Thanx!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Epson printer died&#8230;just conked out on me. So at my neighborhood coffee shop, I sit with my scrambled eggs and MacBook Pro laptop to read your article on Dorothy McGuire. The waitress who sometimes forgets about me, suddenly jolts remembering to give me my second cup o&#8217; tea.</p>
<p>As she passes by to serve another customer, she stops, leans close to me as I&#8217;m reading your blog and asks: &#8220;Who is that?&#8221; I say, &#8220;It&#8217;s Dorothy McGuire. She was one of the big actresses of the 40&#8242;s. I&#8217;m into old films, and on this site people write about films and stars from the 30&#8242;s and 40&#8242;s.&#8221; The waitress said, &#8220;McGuire? Hmmm. She&#8217;s very beautiful.&#8221; And I say &#8220;thank you for asking.&#8221; I get my tea and drink&#8230;and feel vaguely emotional.</p>
<p>Nah&#8230;it&#8217;s not the caffeine. It&#8217;s the fact that this waitress noticed and commented on McGuire. It&#8217;s the fact that your essay is wonderfully written and I kind of feel totally ashamed at my sometimes flippant writing on the TCM Message Board. You&#8217;ve inspired and aspired me to write more seriously. I&#8217;ve become a big Dorothy McGuire fan in recent years. You capture it so well when you write: </p>
<p>&#8220;She was unconventional in her naturalism; neither a glossy fantasy nor a femme fatale, but something in between that Hollywood found vexing to cast–an undeniably intelligent actress,&#8217;</p>
<p>and the comparisons to Betty Field, Martha Scott, Margaret O&#8217;Sullavan and their ilk are very apropos. </p>
<p>Thank you for the essay and your writing. Maybe I&#8217;m getting touched in my old age&#8230;or just being touched by great writing.</p>
<p>Thanx!</p>
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		<title>By: rand</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rand]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 00:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for a wonderful piece on a luminous actress.  Do you know the television movie she did in the early &#039;80s called &quot;Ghost Dancer&quot;?  Her portrayal of a deeply ethical woman driven to an act of destruction is really compelling.  While you make some good points about the weaknesses of &quot;Invitation,&quot; I find it always to be very watchable (although her character&#039;s line about being &quot;plain&quot; is so obviously not the case).

I saw her in the NYC production of &quot;Night of the Iguana&quot;.  One reviewer of the show included an anecdote about how, at the performance he saw, there was a woman in the audience who got impatient for the show to start and began to be disruptive, calling for Dorothy McGuire, and angering the audience. The actress eventually came out, spoke softly to the woman and led her out, saying to the audience, &quot;I just want you to know, this is another human being.&quot;  I think the warmth she brought to her roles was really a part of who she was.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for a wonderful piece on a luminous actress.  Do you know the television movie she did in the early &#8217;80s called &#8220;Ghost Dancer&#8221;?  Her portrayal of a deeply ethical woman driven to an act of destruction is really compelling.  While you make some good points about the weaknesses of &#8220;Invitation,&#8221; I find it always to be very watchable (although her character&#8217;s line about being &#8220;plain&#8221; is so obviously not the case).</p>
<p>I saw her in the NYC production of &#8220;Night of the Iguana&#8221;.  One reviewer of the show included an anecdote about how, at the performance he saw, there was a woman in the audience who got impatient for the show to start and began to be disruptive, calling for Dorothy McGuire, and angering the audience. The actress eventually came out, spoke softly to the woman and led her out, saying to the audience, &#8220;I just want you to know, this is another human being.&#8221;  I think the warmth she brought to her roles was really a part of who she was.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Reuven</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frank Reuven]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At last, someone else knows about Mister 880, a good movie with Edmund Gwenn as a rascally old man. Great review of Dorothy McGuire&#039;s career. Though not as glamorous (or driven) as Katharine Hepburn, I thought McGuire and Kate each had a similar core of very American strength in their manner. Good job.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At last, someone else knows about Mister 880, a good movie with Edmund Gwenn as a rascally old man. Great review of Dorothy McGuire&#8217;s career. Though not as glamorous (or driven) as Katharine Hepburn, I thought McGuire and Kate each had a similar core of very American strength in their manner. Good job.</p>
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		<title>By: Al Lowe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Al Lowe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 05:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the kind words and the story about Selznick and Bergman. I never heard that one.
It is interesting that the biggies on the way down sometimes link up with new talent and don&#039;t recognize it for what it is. When One Eye Jacks was being put together Marlon Brando rejected the efforts of Stanley Kubrick and Sam Peckinpah to help him. Jerry Lewis hired Dick Cavett to write his bad TV show and hired Mel Brooks to write one of his movies and didn&#039;t use their work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the kind words and the story about Selznick and Bergman. I never heard that one.<br />
It is interesting that the biggies on the way down sometimes link up with new talent and don&#8217;t recognize it for what it is. When One Eye Jacks was being put together Marlon Brando rejected the efforts of Stanley Kubrick and Sam Peckinpah to help him. Jerry Lewis hired Dick Cavett to write his bad TV show and hired Mel Brooks to write one of his movies and didn&#8217;t use their work.</p>
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		<title>By: FeFe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FeFe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 13:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you. I love Dorothy McGuire too. I appreciate noting the movie plots as it helps to jog my memory. Long before digital TV or the internet, if I missed the name of a movie, I was sol. I would only ask for more stories or antidotes along the way. Shall we play or you post six degrees of Dorothy McGuire?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you. I love Dorothy McGuire too. I appreciate noting the movie plots as it helps to jog my memory. Long before digital TV or the internet, if I missed the name of a movie, I was sol. I would only ask for more stories or antidotes along the way. Shall we play or you post six degrees of Dorothy McGuire?</p>
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		<title>By: moirafinnie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[moirafinnie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 00:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your responses to this post have taught me once again that some of the seemingly forgotten figures in cinema history continue to touch something in viewers. Though I couldn&#039;t touch on all her movies, I hope that this blog draws new audience members to her elegant and naturalistic acting in a variety of roles. 

Hi Jacqueline:
Thanks a lot for the link to that radio version of &lt;strong&gt;A Doll&#039;s House&lt;/strong&gt;. The nuanced clarity of &lt;strong&gt;Dorothy McGuire&lt;/strong&gt;&#039;s voice is wonderful to hear. If you read the last part of this post, you might be a little surprised to learn more about that role of Nora in her career. 

Oh, Marylin,
I&#039;m so glad that I&#039;m not alone in my love for but fear of watching &lt;strong&gt;Old Yeller&lt;/strong&gt;. It&#039;s a great movie, but SO sad and so true about growing up in any time. 

Hi Jenni, 
I hope that you enjoy &lt;b&gt;Till The End of Time&lt;/b&gt;, &lt;b&gt;Friendly Persuasion&lt;/b&gt;, and &lt;b&gt;A Summer Place&lt;/b&gt; when you have a chance to see them and will post your impressions. I&#039;d love to see them. 

Joe aka Mongo, 
I&#039;m glad you liked the article too. While I was chagrined to see that the Academy neglected to mention Ms. &lt;strong&gt;McGuire&lt;/strong&gt;&#039;s name during the In Memoriam segment of the March, 2002 awards show, (supposedly due to time constraints--a real first in the history of the seemingly endless Academy Award show history, no doubt), it seems that they might have tried to make amends the following year, but no!? Ah, well, the Academy Awards are about promoting movies now more than in the past, I guess. 

Hi Bronxgirl, 
I&#039;m glad that you enjoyed the blog and that we can agree about &lt;strong&gt;Invitation&lt;/strong&gt; (1951), one of the few times that &lt;strong&gt;Dorothy McGuire&lt;/strong&gt; seemed to play a part strictly for commercial reasons. I&#039;m glad that you enjoyed the blog, though!

Dear Al Lowe,
Your generous remarks make me so glad that I even tried to tackle this blog! I hope that it helps some people appreciate &lt;strong&gt;Dorothy McGuire&lt;/strong&gt;, or to at least give her films a try. 

I&#039;ve heard about gorgeous &lt;strong&gt;Guy Madison&lt;/strong&gt;&#039;s show about &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;Wild Bill Hickok&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, but have never seen it. I guess it wasn&#039;t in syndication in the &#039;60s and &#039;70s like every other show ever made in the &#039;50s was back then. As to &lt;strong&gt;Gottfried Reinhardt&lt;/strong&gt;, I can&#039;t agree that &lt;strong&gt;Two Faced Woman&lt;/strong&gt; was anything but a disaster, but I did like &lt;strong&gt;The Story of Three Loves&lt;/strong&gt; and aspects of &lt;strong&gt;Betrayed&lt;/strong&gt; (1954) which I thought may have been intended by the participants as a send-up of all WWII espionage movies. This was particularly evident when &lt;strong&gt;Victor Mature&lt;/strong&gt; lurched on to the screen and said, (no kidding) &quot;You&#039;re beautiful when you&#039;re angry&quot; to &lt;strong&gt;Lana Turner&lt;/strong&gt; and introduced himself saying &quot;I am...&lt;em&gt;(dramatic pause)&lt;/em&gt;...The Scarf!

&lt;strong&gt;Dore Schary&lt;/strong&gt; seems to have been a decent screenwriter and certainly nurtured many talented people at RKO before he left for MGM, but I agree, he wasn&#039;t and shouldn&#039;t have tried to be a mogul. 

&lt;em&gt;One More Dorothy McGuire Story:&lt;/em&gt;

In the postwar years, &lt;strong&gt;David O. Selznick&lt;/strong&gt; toyed with the idea of using his frozen assets in such countries as Sweden to make inexpensive, quality movies in Europe. One pipe dream involved casting &lt;strong&gt;Dorothy McGuire&lt;/strong&gt; as Nora in Ibsen&#039;s &lt;strong&gt;A Doll&#039;s House&lt;/strong&gt;, to be shot in Norway with an American cast (with &lt;strong&gt;Walter Pidgeon&lt;/strong&gt; or &lt;strong&gt;Robert Mitchum&lt;/strong&gt; as the husband&lt;em&gt;--what was he thinking?&lt;/em&gt;) and a Swedish crew. The prominent Swedish director &lt;strong&gt;Alf Sjöberg&lt;/strong&gt; was hired along with his odd screenwriter to prepare the script. An employee of &lt;strong&gt;Selznick&lt;/strong&gt; reported this man was &quot;a queer looking individual: very young, terribly thin and tall, with hair almost down to his shoulders, and huge eyes deep in his head. He speaks little English, but said he understood me very well.&quot; The 29 year old prepared a script with the boffo upbeat ending that &lt;strong&gt;Selznick&lt;/strong&gt; asked for, but the producer, as usual, couldn&#039;t leave well enough alone. After employing one of the future giants of world cinema for a few months at a bargain rate, he gave him the boot in favor of a name writer,&lt;strong&gt; Lillian Hellman&lt;/strong&gt;, whose version also was tossed aside, and, as usual,  &lt;strong&gt;Selznick&lt;/strong&gt; lost interest in his latest toy. Btw, the name of that odd sounding screenwriter was Ingmar Bergman.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your responses to this post have taught me once again that some of the seemingly forgotten figures in cinema history continue to touch something in viewers. Though I couldn&#8217;t touch on all her movies, I hope that this blog draws new audience members to her elegant and naturalistic acting in a variety of roles. </p>
<p>Hi Jacqueline:<br />
Thanks a lot for the link to that radio version of <strong>A Doll&#8217;s House</strong>. The nuanced clarity of <strong>Dorothy McGuire</strong>&#8216;s voice is wonderful to hear. If you read the last part of this post, you might be a little surprised to learn more about that role of Nora in her career. </p>
<p>Oh, Marylin,<br />
I&#8217;m so glad that I&#8217;m not alone in my love for but fear of watching <strong>Old Yeller</strong>. It&#8217;s a great movie, but SO sad and so true about growing up in any time. </p>
<p>Hi Jenni,<br />
I hope that you enjoy <b>Till The End of Time</b>, <b>Friendly Persuasion</b>, and <b>A Summer Place</b> when you have a chance to see them and will post your impressions. I&#8217;d love to see them. </p>
<p>Joe aka Mongo,<br />
I&#8217;m glad you liked the article too. While I was chagrined to see that the Academy neglected to mention Ms. <strong>McGuire</strong>&#8216;s name during the In Memoriam segment of the March, 2002 awards show, (supposedly due to time constraints&#8211;a real first in the history of the seemingly endless Academy Award show history, no doubt), it seems that they might have tried to make amends the following year, but no!? Ah, well, the Academy Awards are about promoting movies now more than in the past, I guess. </p>
<p>Hi Bronxgirl,<br />
I&#8217;m glad that you enjoyed the blog and that we can agree about <strong>Invitation</strong> (1951), one of the few times that <strong>Dorothy McGuire</strong> seemed to play a part strictly for commercial reasons. I&#8217;m glad that you enjoyed the blog, though!</p>
<p>Dear Al Lowe,<br />
Your generous remarks make me so glad that I even tried to tackle this blog! I hope that it helps some people appreciate <strong>Dorothy McGuire</strong>, or to at least give her films a try. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard about gorgeous <strong>Guy Madison</strong>&#8216;s show about <strong><em>Wild Bill Hickok</em></strong>, but have never seen it. I guess it wasn&#8217;t in syndication in the &#8217;60s and &#8217;70s like every other show ever made in the &#8217;50s was back then. As to <strong>Gottfried Reinhardt</strong>, I can&#8217;t agree that <strong>Two Faced Woman</strong> was anything but a disaster, but I did like <strong>The Story of Three Loves</strong> and aspects of <strong>Betrayed</strong> (1954) which I thought may have been intended by the participants as a send-up of all WWII espionage movies. This was particularly evident when <strong>Victor Mature</strong> lurched on to the screen and said, (no kidding) &#8220;You&#8217;re beautiful when you&#8217;re angry&#8221; to <strong>Lana Turner</strong> and introduced himself saying &#8220;I am&#8230;<em>(dramatic pause)</em>&#8230;The Scarf!</p>
<p><strong>Dore Schary</strong> seems to have been a decent screenwriter and certainly nurtured many talented people at RKO before he left for MGM, but I agree, he wasn&#8217;t and shouldn&#8217;t have tried to be a mogul. </p>
<p><em>One More Dorothy McGuire Story:</em></p>
<p>In the postwar years, <strong>David O. Selznick</strong> toyed with the idea of using his frozen assets in such countries as Sweden to make inexpensive, quality movies in Europe. One pipe dream involved casting <strong>Dorothy McGuire</strong> as Nora in Ibsen&#8217;s <strong>A Doll&#8217;s House</strong>, to be shot in Norway with an American cast (with <strong>Walter Pidgeon</strong> or <strong>Robert Mitchum</strong> as the husband<em>&#8211;what was he thinking?</em>) and a Swedish crew. The prominent Swedish director <strong>Alf Sjöberg</strong> was hired along with his odd screenwriter to prepare the script. An employee of <strong>Selznick</strong> reported this man was &#8220;a queer looking individual: very young, terribly thin and tall, with hair almost down to his shoulders, and huge eyes deep in his head. He speaks little English, but said he understood me very well.&#8221; The 29 year old prepared a script with the boffo upbeat ending that <strong>Selznick</strong> asked for, but the producer, as usual, couldn&#8217;t leave well enough alone. After employing one of the future giants of world cinema for a few months at a bargain rate, he gave him the boot in favor of a name writer,<strong> Lillian Hellman</strong>, whose version also was tossed aside, and, as usual,  <strong>Selznick</strong> lost interest in his latest toy. Btw, the name of that odd sounding screenwriter was Ingmar Bergman.</p>
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		<title>By: judyge</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 11:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I enjoyed reading this very much - great account of &#039;Gentleman&#039;s Agreement&#039;, which I saw recently on TCM in the UK. I will now watch out for more of the Dorothy McGuire movies you discuss here, and return to your comments on them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed reading this very much &#8211; great account of &#8216;Gentleman&#8217;s Agreement&#8217;, which I saw recently on TCM in the UK. I will now watch out for more of the Dorothy McGuire movies you discuss here, and return to your comments on them.</p>
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		<title>By: Bronxgirl</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bronxgirl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 21:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[moira, you nailed everything that I felt was overblown about INVITATION. (except for Dorothy, of course)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>moira, you nailed everything that I felt was overblown about INVITATION. (except for Dorothy, of course)</p>
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