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	<title>Comments on: Giving in to a bleak mood &#8212; and coming out of it &#8212; with the help of &#8220;Kings Row&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Marylin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marylin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Medusa, I&#039;m so glad you chose to write about &quot;King&#039;s Row.&quot;  I saw it on television for the first time when I was 11 or 12 and had to talk myself into watching it again as an adult. Charles Coburn really did a number on me!  Very scary performance!  Of course, I did watch the movie again and thought all the actors gave fine performances - especially, Ann Sheridan.

I hope you&#039;re feeling less in a funk. Sometimes I have to declare a moratorium and avoid the news for a few days in order to stay sane.  Movies are great &quot;comfort food.&quot;  

Great article!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Medusa, I&#8217;m so glad you chose to write about &#8220;King&#8217;s Row.&#8221;  I saw it on television for the first time when I was 11 or 12 and had to talk myself into watching it again as an adult. Charles Coburn really did a number on me!  Very scary performance!  Of course, I did watch the movie again and thought all the actors gave fine performances &#8211; especially, Ann Sheridan.</p>
<p>I hope you&#8217;re feeling less in a funk. Sometimes I have to declare a moratorium and avoid the news for a few days in order to stay sane.  Movies are great &#8220;comfort food.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Great article!</p>
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		<title>By: Al Lowe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Al Lowe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 07:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This country may be going to heck but there are always the movies and TV to make you forget about it.
I just watched a rerun of What&#039;s My Line, which every so often would have two mystery guests.
On this episode the two guests, appearing seperately, were Frank Lloyd Wright and Liberace.
Liberace got more applause.
Incidentally, I saw King&#039;s Row a long time ago, when Reagan was president. Your essay makes me think I ought to take another look.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This country may be going to heck but there are always the movies and TV to make you forget about it.<br />
I just watched a rerun of What&#8217;s My Line, which every so often would have two mystery guests.<br />
On this episode the two guests, appearing seperately, were Frank Lloyd Wright and Liberace.<br />
Liberace got more applause.<br />
Incidentally, I saw King&#8217;s Row a long time ago, when Reagan was president. Your essay makes me think I ought to take another look.</p>
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		<title>By: Medusa</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Medusa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 01:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oops, Mongo...yes, I meant Harry Davenport.  

And Ann Sheridan is radiant, isn&#039;t she?

Thanks for the comments!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, Mongo&#8230;yes, I meant Harry Davenport.  </p>
<p>And Ann Sheridan is radiant, isn&#8217;t she?</p>
<p>Thanks for the comments!</p>
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		<title>By: Joe aka Mongo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe aka Mongo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 22:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Medusa, congratulations on a fine piece about one of my favorite films &quot;King&#039;s Row&quot;. I like tales about small towns and it&#039;s inhabitants where evil usually lurks.
Of course Ann Sheridan is a big plus for me since in my eyes she is a movie legend, although the rest of the cast is perfecto.
Charles Davenport? I believe you meant the wonderful character actor Harry Davenport.

Good stuff.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Medusa, congratulations on a fine piece about one of my favorite films &#8220;King&#8217;s Row&#8221;. I like tales about small towns and it&#8217;s inhabitants where evil usually lurks.<br />
Of course Ann Sheridan is a big plus for me since in my eyes she is a movie legend, although the rest of the cast is perfecto.<br />
Charles Davenport? I believe you meant the wonderful character actor Harry Davenport.</p>
<p>Good stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff (Atlanta)</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff (Atlanta)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 02:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, lovable old Charles Coburn is a cold, sadistic SOB in this film which only proves just what a great range he had and how effortless he made it appear. But as horrible as he is, we still adore him because he cut Ronald Reagan down to size.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, lovable old Charles Coburn is a cold, sadistic SOB in this film which only proves just what a great range he had and how effortless he made it appear. But as horrible as he is, we still adore him because he cut Ronald Reagan down to size.</p>
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		<title>By: Medusa</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Medusa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 01:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is something definitely special about &quot;Kings Row&quot;, possibly the whole is better than the sum of its parts.  Though some of the acting is maybe a little on the breathless side, there is real humanity in the performances.  Sheridan is really quite good, isn&#039;t she?  I think knowing what happened in the book informs watching the film -- even if they are talking about insanity in the movie, you can believe that Rains was playing it as if it were the incest from the book.  And of course Rains is so good that even being so misguided, he&#039;s a sympathetic (well, sort of) character.  But Charles Coburn...brrrr!  He&#039;s terrifying in the role.  I also forgot to mention Charles Davenport as Col. Skeffington, one decent constant in the town.  Great performance.  

Thanks for the comments!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is something definitely special about &#8220;Kings Row&#8221;, possibly the whole is better than the sum of its parts.  Though some of the acting is maybe a little on the breathless side, there is real humanity in the performances.  Sheridan is really quite good, isn&#8217;t she?  I think knowing what happened in the book informs watching the film &#8212; even if they are talking about insanity in the movie, you can believe that Rains was playing it as if it were the incest from the book.  And of course Rains is so good that even being so misguided, he&#8217;s a sympathetic (well, sort of) character.  But Charles Coburn&#8230;brrrr!  He&#8217;s terrifying in the role.  I also forgot to mention Charles Davenport as Col. Skeffington, one decent constant in the town.  Great performance.  </p>
<p>Thanks for the comments!</p>
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		<title>By: Stacia</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stacia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 22:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;King&#039;s Row&quot; is a kind of joke in the film community, so when I first saw it a few years ago I was surprised at how good it was.  Sheridan really was a fine actress and I recommend &quot;King&#039;s Row&quot; to anyone who thinks she was just a pretty face.  Cummings is always pleasant and he gets a bad rap for it, although in KR and other films his pleasantness is necessary and welcome amidst all the melodrama and chaos and murder.  

My only disappointment with KR is in Rains&#039; character, because even toned down you get a real sense of evil underlying his actions, yet it&#039;s so vague that one has trouble getting a handle on it.  Rains&#039; trademark pathos and humanity just muddies the waters in that particular plotline.

What an excellent write-up!  I&#039;m glad to see KR get some much-needed positive, intelligent discussion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;King&#8217;s Row&#8221; is a kind of joke in the film community, so when I first saw it a few years ago I was surprised at how good it was.  Sheridan really was a fine actress and I recommend &#8220;King&#8217;s Row&#8221; to anyone who thinks she was just a pretty face.  Cummings is always pleasant and he gets a bad rap for it, although in KR and other films his pleasantness is necessary and welcome amidst all the melodrama and chaos and murder.  </p>
<p>My only disappointment with KR is in Rains&#8217; character, because even toned down you get a real sense of evil underlying his actions, yet it&#8217;s so vague that one has trouble getting a handle on it.  Rains&#8217; trademark pathos and humanity just muddies the waters in that particular plotline.</p>
<p>What an excellent write-up!  I&#8217;m glad to see KR get some much-needed positive, intelligent discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: Al Lowe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Al Lowe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can understand why you are feeling discouraged by whats going on in this country. I&#039;m reminded of the ending of the movie Grapes of Wrath, when Ma Joad turns to Pa Joad and says, &quot;We&#039;ve sure taken a beating.&quot;
I just thought of another movie scene. Remember the Monty Python gang on crosses in Life of Brian singing &quot;Always look on the bright side of life.&quot;
Keep your chin up. I often get my inspiration from old movies too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can understand why you are feeling discouraged by whats going on in this country. I&#8217;m reminded of the ending of the movie Grapes of Wrath, when Ma Joad turns to Pa Joad and says, &#8220;We&#8217;ve sure taken a beating.&#8221;<br />
I just thought of another movie scene. Remember the Monty Python gang on crosses in Life of Brian singing &#8220;Always look on the bright side of life.&#8221;<br />
Keep your chin up. I often get my inspiration from old movies too.</p>
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		<title>By: moirafinnie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[moirafinnie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This was an insightful analysis of what may be one of the most subversive American major studio movies of the post pre-code era. Ironic, isn&#039;t it, that it was helmed by one of the most politically reactionary of directors, &lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.filmsofthegoldenage.com/foga/1996/winter/swood.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sam Wood&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, (who also made Hemingway&#039;s &lt;strong&gt;For Whom the Bell Tolls&lt;/strong&gt;, with a decided sympathy for the Spanish Republic)? Clearly, he was a storyteller first. 

I guess that goes to show that politics in Hollywood is one thing, making commercially viable movies with great stories is another.  In terms of the exposure of the underside of the American dream,  it seems to me that the power of this movie may be its recognition of pain, waste and evil in every corner of the world. The fact that the characters see this clearly by the end of the film, and release themselves from the burden that it might impose to move on with their lives is all the more remarkable, since this movie was made at the height of WWII. I would love to see all of the PCA correspondence with &lt;strong&gt;Warner Brothers&lt;/strong&gt; over the content of this screenplay, as the article that you cited really touched off my curiosity!

This may also be one of the few movies in which the presence of &lt;strong&gt;Robert Cummings&lt;/strong&gt; doesn&#039;t send me lunging for the remote control.As you point out, he is actually convincingly intellectual without seeming to be what used to be called a &quot;pantywaist&quot; about it, (&quot;pantywaist&quot; probably equals &quot;ineffectual, possibly effeminate nerd&quot; in more recent terminology). Since many American movies of the period, (not to mention now), have a strong streak of anti-intellectualism in them, this is really refreshing.

One small quibble, which probably reflects my bias toward &lt;strong&gt;Claude Rains&lt;/strong&gt; in anything: &quot;cold, incisive&quot; seems to be his persona on the surface, but, as revealed in several scenes, particularly in the final meeting of &lt;strong&gt;Cummings&lt;/strong&gt; &amp; &lt;strong&gt;Rains&lt;/strong&gt;, he&#039;s also a man who sees rather clearly that his analytical skills and self-imposed sense of dignity have isolated him from life. He is clearly desperately lonely and trying to do the right thing for once in his paternalistic relationship with &lt;strong&gt;Cummings&lt;/strong&gt;&#039; character. I thought that this largely tacit acknowledgment of the trap that he has made for himself gave his character a truly tragic element. 

I try to see this movie every couple of years, particularly to hear the glorious score, the cinematography and that marvelous, studio-bound yet all encompassing art direction of &lt;strong&gt;William Cameron Menzies&lt;/strong&gt;, not to mention the cast&#039;s work, (in particular &lt;strong&gt;Ann Sheridan&lt;/strong&gt;, who was &lt;em&gt;never&lt;/em&gt; more winning).  I can see that you&#039;ve now given me even more to derive from it. 

Thanks, Medusa--this is a fine, provocative piece with much to think about in your observations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was an insightful analysis of what may be one of the most subversive American major studio movies of the post pre-code era. Ironic, isn&#8217;t it, that it was helmed by one of the most politically reactionary of directors, <strong><a href="http://www.filmsofthegoldenage.com/foga/1996/winter/swood.shtml" rel="nofollow">Sam Wood</a></strong>, (who also made Hemingway&#8217;s <strong>For Whom the Bell Tolls</strong>, with a decided sympathy for the Spanish Republic)? Clearly, he was a storyteller first. </p>
<p>I guess that goes to show that politics in Hollywood is one thing, making commercially viable movies with great stories is another.  In terms of the exposure of the underside of the American dream,  it seems to me that the power of this movie may be its recognition of pain, waste and evil in every corner of the world. The fact that the characters see this clearly by the end of the film, and release themselves from the burden that it might impose to move on with their lives is all the more remarkable, since this movie was made at the height of WWII. I would love to see all of the PCA correspondence with <strong>Warner Brothers</strong> over the content of this screenplay, as the article that you cited really touched off my curiosity!</p>
<p>This may also be one of the few movies in which the presence of <strong>Robert Cummings</strong> doesn&#8217;t send me lunging for the remote control.As you point out, he is actually convincingly intellectual without seeming to be what used to be called a &#8220;pantywaist&#8221; about it, (&#8220;pantywaist&#8221; probably equals &#8220;ineffectual, possibly effeminate nerd&#8221; in more recent terminology). Since many American movies of the period, (not to mention now), have a strong streak of anti-intellectualism in them, this is really refreshing.</p>
<p>One small quibble, which probably reflects my bias toward <strong>Claude Rains</strong> in anything: &#8220;cold, incisive&#8221; seems to be his persona on the surface, but, as revealed in several scenes, particularly in the final meeting of <strong>Cummings</strong> &amp; <strong>Rains</strong>, he&#8217;s also a man who sees rather clearly that his analytical skills and self-imposed sense of dignity have isolated him from life. He is clearly desperately lonely and trying to do the right thing for once in his paternalistic relationship with <strong>Cummings</strong>&#8216; character. I thought that this largely tacit acknowledgment of the trap that he has made for himself gave his character a truly tragic element. </p>
<p>I try to see this movie every couple of years, particularly to hear the glorious score, the cinematography and that marvelous, studio-bound yet all encompassing art direction of <strong>William Cameron Menzies</strong>, not to mention the cast&#8217;s work, (in particular <strong>Ann Sheridan</strong>, who was <em>never</em> more winning).  I can see that you&#8217;ve now given me even more to derive from it. </p>
<p>Thanks, Medusa&#8211;this is a fine, provocative piece with much to think about in your observations.</p>
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		<title>By: larry 48</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 06:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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