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		<link>http://moviemorlocks.com/2008/08/27/my-continuing-borzage-education/#comment-9468</link>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] and dreams of their characters. Frank Borzage explored this theme repeatedly in such movies as Man&#8217;s Castle (1933) and Little Man, What Now (1934), with characters espousing the belief that &#8220;[w]hen [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and dreams of their characters. Frank Borzage explored this theme repeatedly in such movies as Man&#8217;s Castle (1933) and Little Man, What Now (1934), with characters espousing the belief that &#8220;[w]hen [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Al Lowe</title>
		<link>http://moviemorlocks.com/2008/08/27/my-continuing-borzage-education/#comment-5212</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for answering my question. I just read this today.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for answering my question. I just read this today.</p>
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		<title>By: moirafinnie</title>
		<link>http://moviemorlocks.com/2008/08/27/my-continuing-borzage-education/#comment-5085</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 19:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for all your comments about this haunting movie.

You can access the Obscure Classics podcast mentioned by the poster above &lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://obscureclassics.wordpress.com/2008/09/02/podcast-4-frank-borzages-mans-castle/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;. Nice site, guys!

&lt;b&gt;Al Lowe&lt;/b&gt;,
You commented that &quot;It is quite a touching love story. It makes me wonder about Borzage’s personal life. Any affairs with actresses?&quot;

There is a playful sexuality seamlessly blended with the spiritual aspects of &lt;b&gt;Borzage&lt;/b&gt;&#039;s characters whose presence is &quot;&lt;em&gt;in&lt;/em&gt; the world, [and the flesh], but not entirely &lt;em&gt;of&lt;/em&gt; the world.&quot; Based on &lt;b&gt;Hervé Dumont&lt;/b&gt;&#039;s well researched book on &lt;b&gt;Frank Borzage&lt;/b&gt;&#039;s life and films and other sources, I&#039;ve learned that like many romantic idealists, life could often disappoint the director, though we, of course, cannot know the other party&#039;s side of things or the entire story. During a troubled first marriage, he was said to have had discreet affairs with &lt;b&gt;Lupe Velez, Mary Pickford, Marion Davies, Joan Crawford&lt;/b&gt; and &lt;b&gt;Hedy Lamarr&lt;/b&gt;. The quiet, down to earth &lt;b&gt;Borzage&lt;/b&gt;, who seems to have inspired affection in almost all who knew him, was renowned for bringing peace and diplomacy to the often rancorous, high pressure atmosphere of film sets. Unfortunately, his union with his first wife, who was an educated woman who was a social butterfly with considerable business interests and a talent for entertaining, seems to have been an odd match for such a man.   

His first wife was silent actress &lt;b&gt;Rena (Lorena) Rogers Borzage&lt;/b&gt;, whom he married in 1916 just as he was making the transition from actor to director. According to his family and friends, the generous hearted &lt;b&gt;Borzage&lt;/b&gt; lavished his wife with every possible Hollywood luxury. Doting on her, she became rather notorious for her extravagance, and her reported bisexual affairs, and an abortion that she is said to have had without his knowledge. The director overlooked as much as he could since he loved her deeply and was often too busy working and pursuing his own hobbies, such as golf, polo and flying to confront their problems, (something that would have been uncharacteristic for Borzage).  As Borzage&#039;s family members said: &quot;The thing he loved most in his early life was Rena, he idolized her. Look at &lt;b&gt;Janet Gaynor&lt;/b&gt; and &lt;b&gt;Helen Hayes&lt;/b&gt;: they had the same body as Rena, it&#039;s not a coincidence!&quot; Others have also noted that &lt;b&gt;Margaret Sullavan&lt;/b&gt; was close to the ideal &lt;b&gt;Borzage&lt;/b&gt; woman: small, ethereal and gamine, with hidden strengths. The real life &lt;b&gt;Rena&lt;/b&gt;, who claimed to respect but not love him, is said to have felt obliged to fling her preference for another lover in his face publicly at their twentieth wedding anniversary party with many of their family and friends present. 

This state of affairs finally led to a divorce, and matters came to a head just as &lt;b&gt;Borzage&lt;/b&gt; made what may have been one of his most somber and deeply felt movies, &lt;b&gt;The Mortal Storm,&lt;/b&gt; (1940). &lt;b&gt;Borzage&lt;/b&gt;, who sought treatment for alcoholism at several intervals during his Hollywood career (he finally quit drinking in the &#039;50s), was deeply wounded by his marriage&#039;s failure.

The director later married &lt;b&gt;Edna Stillwell Skelton,&lt;/b&gt; (ex-wife of &lt;b&gt;Red Skelton&lt;/b&gt;, though she continued to be the comedian&#039;s business representative even after the divorce and her re-marriage) in 1946, which only lasted until 1948. He married &lt;b&gt;Juanita (&quot;Nita&quot; ) Scott&lt;/b&gt; in 1953, a young woman who worked as an accountant when they met. Their marriage, which is described as very happy, lasted until his death in 1962. 

&lt;b&gt;Borzage&lt;/b&gt;, who was deeply disappointed to never have had children, doted on his many nieces and nephews, financing many of their educations, and helping his entire extended family share in his good fortune.

 I apologize for being so tardy in replying to your kind remarks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all your comments about this haunting movie.</p>
<p>You can access the Obscure Classics podcast mentioned by the poster above <strong><a href="http://obscureclassics.wordpress.com/2008/09/02/podcast-4-frank-borzages-mans-castle/" rel="nofollow">here</a></strong>. Nice site, guys!</p>
<p><b>Al Lowe</b>,<br />
You commented that &#8220;It is quite a touching love story. It makes me wonder about Borzage’s personal life. Any affairs with actresses?&#8221;</p>
<p>There is a playful sexuality seamlessly blended with the spiritual aspects of <b>Borzage</b>&#8216;s characters whose presence is &#8220;<em>in</em> the world, [and the flesh], but not entirely <em>of</em> the world.&#8221; Based on <b>Hervé Dumont</b>&#8216;s well researched book on <b>Frank Borzage</b>&#8216;s life and films and other sources, I&#8217;ve learned that like many romantic idealists, life could often disappoint the director, though we, of course, cannot know the other party&#8217;s side of things or the entire story. During a troubled first marriage, he was said to have had discreet affairs with <b>Lupe Velez, Mary Pickford, Marion Davies, Joan Crawford</b> and <b>Hedy Lamarr</b>. The quiet, down to earth <b>Borzage</b>, who seems to have inspired affection in almost all who knew him, was renowned for bringing peace and diplomacy to the often rancorous, high pressure atmosphere of film sets. Unfortunately, his union with his first wife, who was an educated woman who was a social butterfly with considerable business interests and a talent for entertaining, seems to have been an odd match for such a man.   </p>
<p>His first wife was silent actress <b>Rena (Lorena) Rogers Borzage</b>, whom he married in 1916 just as he was making the transition from actor to director. According to his family and friends, the generous hearted <b>Borzage</b> lavished his wife with every possible Hollywood luxury. Doting on her, she became rather notorious for her extravagance, and her reported bisexual affairs, and an abortion that she is said to have had without his knowledge. The director overlooked as much as he could since he loved her deeply and was often too busy working and pursuing his own hobbies, such as golf, polo and flying to confront their problems, (something that would have been uncharacteristic for Borzage).  As Borzage&#8217;s family members said: &#8220;The thing he loved most in his early life was Rena, he idolized her. Look at <b>Janet Gaynor</b> and <b>Helen Hayes</b>: they had the same body as Rena, it&#8217;s not a coincidence!&#8221; Others have also noted that <b>Margaret Sullavan</b> was close to the ideal <b>Borzage</b> woman: small, ethereal and gamine, with hidden strengths. The real life <b>Rena</b>, who claimed to respect but not love him, is said to have felt obliged to fling her preference for another lover in his face publicly at their twentieth wedding anniversary party with many of their family and friends present. </p>
<p>This state of affairs finally led to a divorce, and matters came to a head just as <b>Borzage</b> made what may have been one of his most somber and deeply felt movies, <b>The Mortal Storm,</b> (1940). <b>Borzage</b>, who sought treatment for alcoholism at several intervals during his Hollywood career (he finally quit drinking in the &#8217;50s), was deeply wounded by his marriage&#8217;s failure.</p>
<p>The director later married <b>Edna Stillwell Skelton,</b> (ex-wife of <b>Red Skelton</b>, though she continued to be the comedian&#8217;s business representative even after the divorce and her re-marriage) in 1946, which only lasted until 1948. He married <b>Juanita (&#8220;Nita&#8221; ) Scott</b> in 1953, a young woman who worked as an accountant when they met. Their marriage, which is described as very happy, lasted until his death in 1962. </p>
<p><b>Borzage</b>, who was deeply disappointed to never have had children, doted on his many nieces and nephews, financing many of their educations, and helping his entire extended family share in his good fortune.</p>
<p> I apologize for being so tardy in replying to your kind remarks.</p>
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		<title>By: obscureclassics</title>
		<link>http://moviemorlocks.com/2008/08/27/my-continuing-borzage-education/#comment-5083</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 16:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Man&#039;s Castle is my favorite movie, and I was so happy that TCM finally aired it so more people could see it. I know that a pretty big number of people over at Rotten Tomatoes watched it because of my constant prodding. It&#039;s just such a beautiful, complicated romance. And Borzage is my favorite director. The spirituality of his films and love stories... just amazing.

We did a podcast on Man&#039;s Castle over at Obscure Classics, if anyone&#039;s interested in listening.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man&#8217;s Castle is my favorite movie, and I was so happy that TCM finally aired it so more people could see it. I know that a pretty big number of people over at Rotten Tomatoes watched it because of my constant prodding. It&#8217;s just such a beautiful, complicated romance. And Borzage is my favorite director. The spirituality of his films and love stories&#8230; just amazing.</p>
<p>We did a podcast on Man&#8217;s Castle over at Obscure Classics, if anyone&#8217;s interested in listening.</p>
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		<title>By: Al Lowe</title>
		<link>http://moviemorlocks.com/2008/08/27/my-continuing-borzage-education/#comment-4952</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 06:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really wasn&#039;t expecting to like A Man&#039;s Castle. But it was amazing. And you did a good job capturing the essence of the film without giving away too much and spoiling it.

I&#039;d been disappointed when I caught up with other early Tracy films - Dante&#039;s Inferno, Me and My Gal, The Power and the Glory. I knew his famous later films really well; I watched them every time they aired on TV and now own the videos.

Loretta Young was right about her performance. She showed she could act.

Yes, the sexist attitude of the protagonist is hard to take. But times haven&#039;t really changed. Some men still act that way and SOME women still take it.

It is easy to see that Tracy and Young were intimate from their rapport. It is the same with Woman of the Year, with Tracy and Hepburn seeming like they were more than just co-stars.

Loretta plays a strong woman character. And Tracy is outstanding playing a man who is an unpredictable mass of contradictions.

It is quite a touching love story. It makes me wonder about Borzage&#039;s personal life. Any affairs with actresses?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really wasn&#8217;t expecting to like A Man&#8217;s Castle. But it was amazing. And you did a good job capturing the essence of the film without giving away too much and spoiling it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d been disappointed when I caught up with other early Tracy films &#8211; Dante&#8217;s Inferno, Me and My Gal, The Power and the Glory. I knew his famous later films really well; I watched them every time they aired on TV and now own the videos.</p>
<p>Loretta Young was right about her performance. She showed she could act.</p>
<p>Yes, the sexist attitude of the protagonist is hard to take. But times haven&#8217;t really changed. Some men still act that way and SOME women still take it.</p>
<p>It is easy to see that Tracy and Young were intimate from their rapport. It is the same with Woman of the Year, with Tracy and Hepburn seeming like they were more than just co-stars.</p>
<p>Loretta plays a strong woman character. And Tracy is outstanding playing a man who is an unpredictable mass of contradictions.</p>
<p>It is quite a touching love story. It makes me wonder about Borzage&#8217;s personal life. Any affairs with actresses?</p>
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		<title>By: Al Lowe</title>
		<link>http://moviemorlocks.com/2008/08/27/my-continuing-borzage-education/#comment-4918</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know what I am going to be doing Sunday night. Watching A Man&#039;s Castle.

I think that Loretta Young&#039;s success in films is usually underrated. She is unique in having co-starred with virtually all of the top leading men of the era - Gary Cooper, Alan Ladd, Gable, Tracy, Robert Taylor, Van Johnson, Tyrone Power, Orson Welles, Charles Boyer, Jeff Chandler, James Cagney, Cary Grant, David Niven, Joel McCrea, Ray Milland, Frederic March, Joseph Cotten, William Holden, Robert Mitchum, John Forsythe. It looks like the only ones she missed were Errol Flynn, Bogart, Brando, Tony Curtis, Montgomery Clift and Paul Muni. 
And, of course, she had a very successful TV career.

I am Spencer Tracy&#039;s Number 1 fan and I agree with your assessment of his talents. In his early 30s films he seems at times inspired and at times lost. A friend sent me a tape of his Raoul Walsh-directed film Me and My Gal. The Tracy of those years did not seem as focused and as intent on getting the best of the scene as he was at MGM.

The off-screen liason between Young and Tracy seems as bizarre as Kate Hepburn having an affair with Howard Hughes.

And, although I am a devoted movie buff, I am ignorant about most of the films made by Frank Borzage. 
I do know Stage Door Canteen is a winner, not so much for its quality but for recording an entertainment era.

Thanks for your article.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know what I am going to be doing Sunday night. Watching A Man&#8217;s Castle.</p>
<p>I think that Loretta Young&#8217;s success in films is usually underrated. She is unique in having co-starred with virtually all of the top leading men of the era &#8211; Gary Cooper, Alan Ladd, Gable, Tracy, Robert Taylor, Van Johnson, Tyrone Power, Orson Welles, Charles Boyer, Jeff Chandler, James Cagney, Cary Grant, David Niven, Joel McCrea, Ray Milland, Frederic March, Joseph Cotten, William Holden, Robert Mitchum, John Forsythe. It looks like the only ones she missed were Errol Flynn, Bogart, Brando, Tony Curtis, Montgomery Clift and Paul Muni.<br />
And, of course, she had a very successful TV career.</p>
<p>I am Spencer Tracy&#8217;s Number 1 fan and I agree with your assessment of his talents. In his early 30s films he seems at times inspired and at times lost. A friend sent me a tape of his Raoul Walsh-directed film Me and My Gal. The Tracy of those years did not seem as focused and as intent on getting the best of the scene as he was at MGM.</p>
<p>The off-screen liason between Young and Tracy seems as bizarre as Kate Hepburn having an affair with Howard Hughes.</p>
<p>And, although I am a devoted movie buff, I am ignorant about most of the films made by Frank Borzage.<br />
I do know Stage Door Canteen is a winner, not so much for its quality but for recording an entertainment era.</p>
<p>Thanks for your article.</p>
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		<title>By: Fernando aka Feaito</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Beautiful, very well written essay Moira. I hope that Borzage&#039;s appreciation will continue to grow. And I also hope that in the near future &quot;Man&#039;s Castle&quot; will have a release on DVD, worthy of its merits.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautiful, very well written essay Moira. I hope that Borzage&#8217;s appreciation will continue to grow. And I also hope that in the near future &#8220;Man&#8217;s Castle&#8221; will have a release on DVD, worthy of its merits.</p>
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		<title>By: Suzi Doll</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Borzage&#039;s name has been popping up all summer for me. I took two film classes this summer for fun--one about John Ford and his films at Fox and another on F.W. Murnau. Borzage was mentioned in both classes. He was influenced by Murnau while the German director was shooting SUNRISE in Hollywood. In addition to sharing a leading lady (Borzage&#039;s SEVENTH HEAVEN starred Janet Gaynor, who was also in SUNRISE), Borzage seemed influenced by Murnau&#039;s expressive visual style. In the Ford class, I learned that Borzage&#039;s younger brother, Dan, was a member of Ford&#039;s stock company of actors. Dan Borzage was also an accordionist, and Ford often had him play on the set to cheer him up or to create the mood for the film. Borzage played at Ford&#039;s funeral. Thanks for the detailed look at MAN&#039;S CASTLE, which I will try to catch this weekend.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Borzage&#8217;s name has been popping up all summer for me. I took two film classes this summer for fun&#8211;one about John Ford and his films at Fox and another on F.W. Murnau. Borzage was mentioned in both classes. He was influenced by Murnau while the German director was shooting SUNRISE in Hollywood. In addition to sharing a leading lady (Borzage&#8217;s SEVENTH HEAVEN starred Janet Gaynor, who was also in SUNRISE), Borzage seemed influenced by Murnau&#8217;s expressive visual style. In the Ford class, I learned that Borzage&#8217;s younger brother, Dan, was a member of Ford&#8217;s stock company of actors. Dan Borzage was also an accordionist, and Ford often had him play on the set to cheer him up or to create the mood for the film. Borzage played at Ford&#8217;s funeral. Thanks for the detailed look at MAN&#8217;S CASTLE, which I will try to catch this weekend.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think this is my favorite Borzage film and maybe the best one to introduce a newbie to the director&#039;s work. I love the mixture of the tough and tender and the dream-like depiction of Shantytown. So many great moments in this one. Tracy&#039;s attempt to leave town on a freight train and jumping off at the last minute, realizing his true feelings for Young. Or his many odd jobs including the memorable stilt walking stunt with the inner city kids teeming around his legs. Wonderful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is my favorite Borzage film and maybe the best one to introduce a newbie to the director&#8217;s work. I love the mixture of the tough and tender and the dream-like depiction of Shantytown. So many great moments in this one. Tracy&#8217;s attempt to leave town on a freight train and jumping off at the last minute, realizing his true feelings for Young. Or his many odd jobs including the memorable stilt walking stunt with the inner city kids teeming around his legs. Wonderful.</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m thrilled that TCM is showing &quot;Man&#039;s Castle&quot;.  I saw it once - many years ago, and it&#039;s almost like a faded dream in my memory.

&quot;The Mortal Storm&quot; works it&#039;s magic as it had my 17 year old in tears.  What more can a creator ask for?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m thrilled that TCM is showing &#8220;Man&#8217;s Castle&#8221;.  I saw it once &#8211; many years ago, and it&#8217;s almost like a faded dream in my memory.</p>
<p>&#8220;The Mortal Storm&#8221; works it&#8217;s magic as it had my 17 year old in tears.  What more can a creator ask for?</p>
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