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		<title>By: Patricia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 18:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another &quot;save and share&quot;.

Thank you for the insights into Miss Ethel.  She starred on Broadway in an adaptation of Edna Ferber&#039;s stories of traveling saleswoman Emma McChesney.  However, after Ferber and Kaufmann wrote &quot;The Royal Family&quot;, Ethel didn&#039;t speak to Edna for years.  My, they could be a touchy lot those Barrymores.

A favourite role:  &quot;Just for You&quot; as the headmistress of a board school where young Natalie Wood (the daughter of widowed producer Bing Crosby) finds acceptance.  One of those regal ladies with a heart of gold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another &#8220;save and share&#8221;.</p>
<p>Thank you for the insights into Miss Ethel.  She starred on Broadway in an adaptation of Edna Ferber&#8217;s stories of traveling saleswoman Emma McChesney.  However, after Ferber and Kaufmann wrote &#8220;The Royal Family&#8221;, Ethel didn&#8217;t speak to Edna for years.  My, they could be a touchy lot those Barrymores.</p>
<p>A favourite role:  &#8220;Just for You&#8221; as the headmistress of a board school where young Natalie Wood (the daughter of widowed producer Bing Crosby) finds acceptance.  One of those regal ladies with a heart of gold.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe aka Mongo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe aka Mongo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article Moira. Ethel Barrymore is way up at the top of my list of favorite character actresses. In fact my favorite Barrymore.
Although I enjoy her performances in most of the films you mentioned, there is the film &quot;It&#039;s a Big Country&quot; (1951) in which she plays a person who was not counted when they took a census of the population and just wonderful in another small role.
Also in &quot;The Secret of Convict Lake&quot; is Ann Dvorak as a man hungry dame...what else?
Moira, the images you presented here were also top notch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article Moira. Ethel Barrymore is way up at the top of my list of favorite character actresses. In fact my favorite Barrymore.<br />
Although I enjoy her performances in most of the films you mentioned, there is the film &#8220;It&#8217;s a Big Country&#8221; (1951) in which she plays a person who was not counted when they took a census of the population and just wonderful in another small role.<br />
Also in &#8220;The Secret of Convict Lake&#8221; is Ann Dvorak as a man hungry dame&#8230;what else?<br />
Moira, the images you presented here were also top notch.</p>
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		<title>By: moirafinnie</title>
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		<dc:creator>moirafinnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, Chris, I used &quot;impecunious&quot; twice? Yikes, this is not my week for proofreading and editing. 

Yes, I&#039;ve seen &lt;b&gt;The Secret of Convict Lake&lt;/b&gt; and loved it, though &lt;b&gt;Ethel&lt;/b&gt;&#039;s role only allows her flashes of the old fire, imho. A beautifully photographed film by veteran cinematographer &lt;b&gt;Leo Tover&lt;/b&gt;, the movie is saddled with an unfortunate title, but any cast that brings &lt;b&gt;Ethel&lt;/b&gt; together with as diverse a group as &lt;b&gt;Glenn Ford&lt;/b&gt;, (who may not be at his best here), &lt;b&gt;Gene Tierney, Zachary Scott&lt;/b&gt; and even &lt;b&gt;Cyril Cusack&lt;/b&gt; is worth a look. It&#039;s been years since I saw this, but I hope to catch it again. Maybe I should re-think lumping it together with Ethel&#039;s unfortunate on-screen appearance with the icky &lt;b&gt;Mario Lanza&lt;/b&gt; vehicle, &lt;b&gt;That Midnight Kiss&lt;/b&gt; (1949)---though I&#039;m sure that there are many people who like that movie, too. 

Thanks so much for your comments. I&#039;ll try to watch the repetition of those adjectives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, Chris, I used &#8220;impecunious&#8221; twice? Yikes, this is not my week for proofreading and editing. </p>
<p>Yes, I&#8217;ve seen <b>The Secret of Convict Lake</b> and loved it, though <b>Ethel</b>&#8217;s role only allows her flashes of the old fire, imho. A beautifully photographed film by veteran cinematographer <b>Leo Tover</b>, the movie is saddled with an unfortunate title, but any cast that brings <b>Ethel</b> together with as diverse a group as <b>Glenn Ford</b>, (who may not be at his best here), <b>Gene Tierney, Zachary Scott</b> and even <b>Cyril Cusack</b> is worth a look. It&#8217;s been years since I saw this, but I hope to catch it again. Maybe I should re-think lumping it together with Ethel&#8217;s unfortunate on-screen appearance with the icky <b>Mario Lanza</b> vehicle, <b>That Midnight Kiss</b> (1949)&#8212;though I&#8217;m sure that there are many people who like that movie, too. </p>
<p>Thanks so much for your comments. I&#8217;ll try to watch the repetition of those adjectives.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well done Moira. A great read - as usual. Have you seen &quot;The Secret of Convict Lake?&quot; Then I&#039;ll know at least eomone who has seen it besides me. &quot;Impecunious&quot; twice in the same feature, good for you. I learned several things today. Thanks so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done Moira. A great read &#8211; as usual. Have you seen &#8220;The Secret of Convict Lake?&#8221; Then I&#8217;ll know at least eomone who has seen it besides me. &#8220;Impecunious&#8221; twice in the same feature, good for you. I learned several things today. Thanks so much.</p>
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		<title>By: Al Lowe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al Lowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 09:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>During a 1970s stint in the Army, during which I wrote for the Ft. Dix Post, I used to spend weekends catching up on old movies. I used to visit several of the revival houses; one soldier asked me if those were religious places.
Thats where I first caught Rasputin and the Empress. Years later I bought the video from a catalogue. 
It was an experience. It was interesting. Of course, so is being trapped in a cave with bats.
Instead I was trapped in a theater with Barrymores. &quot;I don&#039;t know what those boys were doing,&quot; Ethel reportedly said later.
Thats okay. Neither did they.
But all three made up for it with fine performances later. John in Counsellor-at-law. Lionel in It&#039;s a Wonderful Life. And Ethel in all those films you mentioned.
The three I rewatched most recently was Paradine Case, Portrait of Jennie and Spiral Staircase. Talk about different characterizations! Talk about an actress!
Thanks for the write-up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>During a 1970s stint in the Army, during which I wrote for the Ft. Dix Post, I used to spend weekends catching up on old movies. I used to visit several of the revival houses; one soldier asked me if those were religious places.<br />
Thats where I first caught Rasputin and the Empress. Years later I bought the video from a catalogue.<br />
It was an experience. It was interesting. Of course, so is being trapped in a cave with bats.<br />
Instead I was trapped in a theater with Barrymores. &#8220;I don&#8217;t know what those boys were doing,&#8221; Ethel reportedly said later.<br />
Thats okay. Neither did they.<br />
But all three made up for it with fine performances later. John in Counsellor-at-law. Lionel in It&#8217;s a Wonderful Life. And Ethel in all those films you mentioned.<br />
The three I rewatched most recently was Paradine Case, Portrait of Jennie and Spiral Staircase. Talk about different characterizations! Talk about an actress!<br />
Thanks for the write-up.</p>
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		<title>By: pancakes barbara</title>
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		<dc:creator>pancakes barbara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 04:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a fabulous article! I loved her response to Kazan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a fabulous article! I loved her response to Kazan.</p>
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		<title>By: moirafinnie</title>
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		<dc:creator>moirafinnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi YancySkancy, 
For technical reasons that are beyond my ken to explain, some references to some of Ethel&#039;s films (&lt;b&gt;Moonrise, Portrait of Jennie &amp; The Red Danube&lt;/b&gt;, for example) were excised from my text. Some of these films are among those in which &lt;b&gt;Ethel Barrymore&lt;/b&gt; cast her spell most artfully, and I thank you for reminding me to include some allusions to her finest work. 

I have added back a brief reference to the compellingly romantic &lt;b&gt;Portrait of Jennie&lt;/b&gt;. One of the more interesting theories that I&#039;ve read over time from fans of that film are that perhaps &lt;b&gt;Ethel&lt;/b&gt; was Jennie herself, surviving that cataclysmic storm and grown old waiting for &lt;b&gt;Joseph Cotten&lt;/b&gt; to catch up with her in time. Not something that occurred to me when I read &lt;b&gt;Robert Nathan&lt;/b&gt;&#039;s book as  a girl or when I enjoyed the movie, but an indication of the hold that the film can have on the imagination of its viewers, even today.

As always, thanks for your pertinent comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi YancySkancy,<br />
For technical reasons that are beyond my ken to explain, some references to some of Ethel&#8217;s films (<b>Moonrise, Portrait of Jennie &amp; The Red Danube</b>, for example) were excised from my text. Some of these films are among those in which <b>Ethel Barrymore</b> cast her spell most artfully, and I thank you for reminding me to include some allusions to her finest work. </p>
<p>I have added back a brief reference to the compellingly romantic <b>Portrait of Jennie</b>. One of the more interesting theories that I&#8217;ve read over time from fans of that film are that perhaps <b>Ethel</b> was Jennie herself, surviving that cataclysmic storm and grown old waiting for <b>Joseph Cotten</b> to catch up with her in time. Not something that occurred to me when I read <b>Robert Nathan</b>&#8217;s book as  a girl or when I enjoyed the movie, but an indication of the hold that the film can have on the imagination of its viewers, even today.</p>
<p>As always, thanks for your pertinent comment.</p>
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		<title>By: YancySkancy</title>
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		<dc:creator>YancySkancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fine article.  I read a good bio of the Barrymore clan several years ago; quite a fascinating bunch.

One performance of Ethel&#039;s you didn&#039;t mention is her spinster art dealer in &quot;Portrait of Jennie,&quot; a wonderfully subtle piece of work in a beautiful film.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fine article.  I read a good bio of the Barrymore clan several years ago; quite a fascinating bunch.</p>
<p>One performance of Ethel&#8217;s you didn&#8217;t mention is her spinster art dealer in &#8220;Portrait of Jennie,&#8221; a wonderfully subtle piece of work in a beautiful film.</p>
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